Isn’t it just DLC if that’s the case DLC is never included in GP, with Hivebusters I think that was just them testing how it would play out if they did put DLC in GP:U, I would not expect any DLC to come to GP unless they announce a new tier or add it to the service currently.
DLC is not included in Game Pass. That’s the clear messaging. Every once in awhile they’ll throw it in as perk, like they do with currency in PSO 2 or skins for Warframe. But it should never be expected.
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Here’s a thought, once they’re confident in their servers, add a mobile onpy tier to Gamepass and drop the price to 4.99$ per month.
See how much interest they can get, can they crack that market?
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I think short of a new tier that includes all DLC it will never be more clear than case by case basis.
DLC varies so much in scope, size, and model I don’t v see how they could take a consistent approach.
Looking at it, it’s a badly written sentence as it can be read either way.
It is either saying it can be:
a) bought as an upgrade for owners of Skyrim SE
or
b) is available to Game Pass subs.
Or it is saying it can be bought as an upgrade by:
a) owners of Skyrim SE
or
b) Game Pass subs
It’s this one.
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Without going too far off topic, I think they will announce more tiers of GP. I think we will get a 1st party only tier that could come to places like Steam and Nintendo. I would honestly expect them to include xcloud in all tiers, just “Xbox Game Pass” would be the base tier with all games + xcloud.
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I think xCloud should be free if you have access to any game in Xbox ecosystem, via purchase or subscription.
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If you really think you want AOE4 on console, go download They Are Billions, it’s a great RTS that ported the game to consoles without really changing any controls and just mapping the mouse pointer to the left analog stick. You have to play the entire game in pause mode and it takes 5x as long compared to playing on PC.
Also I wish there was an easy way to see number of players on PC Gamepass since everyone’s looking at the steam DB AOE 4 numbers
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Personally, I disagree. Xbox already has too many terms and services and such that can be confusing to a casual consumer. I also think Xbox should take a page from Sony’s book and not require Xbox Live Gold for games in Game Pass (which is what PS Now offers, and it’s surprisingly generous) to further entice people to subscribe to Game Pass. I understand Xbox Live Gold is a steady revenue stream for Microsoft that they’re hesitant to touch, and I’m just some idiot on the Internet, but it seems like a good source of good will. Ideally, I think Game Pass Ultimate should be the highest tier, and hopefully it would include DLC for first-party games.
That said, I can definitely see an xCloud-only Game Pass tier for something like $5 a month. That’s the way to get browser/mobile/smart TV users in the door. $10 a month might be too much for casuals.
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Definitely should have been all on Game Pass, especially when it’s about such an old game. The story content looks interesting to me, so if the price is alright I will consider spending money on it, since I already have the SE.
I wonder about the optimizations for XSX, what those will be. This CC content, that’s made by BGS themselves?
Thats why you make a proper version for it to avoid this stuff
Yeah I agree (although it’ll be tough for them to figure out and probably not their top priority) but I was responding to a post saying “don’t even worry about making it work on consoles, just port it”.
They should work on mobile with touch controls for AOE4 first
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Sorry that was just to see how people would react, my bad 
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Wait, what was the last time Paradox made an RTS?
When was the last successful RTS on console? Like, at all?
The original Halo Wars, I guess?
What does it matter? They have made it work before with similar PC Centric games too and thats it.
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