XboxEra Community Hangout |OT8| Waiting for E3 2023

True, but he should never have said anything in first place.

Well, at that time (year ago) there were certainly two types of opinions - either GP is good or GP is bad. And GP is bad was a prevalent one. This year, we have more people supporting Game Pass because it seems like being a pro-consumer is kinda good…For consumer :joy:

Fair, anyway good luck to Shawn Layden in his new job.

Shawn seemed very old fashioned, and suggesting subscription are economically not viable for AAA games is BS considering streaming and subscription raised the bar tremendously for TV production and costs, if anything, it’s the other way around.

What’s her track record like? Going from Wikipedia, she’s definitely had some pretty big/controversial whiffs.

Maybe Shawn was worried about diversification because he saw Sony’s lineup

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I think we’ll see Outer Worlds 2 in the short term, before Avowed. Just a hunch.

Do you think that because they already built a foundation for The Outer Worlds and therefore a sequel would be iterative?

Yeah exactly, and Outer Worlds is a shorter / smaller scoped game (as RPGs go) anyway. Whereas Avowed looks to be a Skyrim-sized game.

Avowed was in dev alongside ToW, pretty sure it was in development before MS even acquired them

Id say it’s extremely unlikely ToW2 releases first

I’d want Obsidian to take some more time with TOW2 and not rush it out. I don’t know what they intend for the game to be, but it was pretty clear that they were budget constrained.

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Coming to Xbox, PC, Switch and Game Pass day 1 announced at X022 in November /s

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Didn’t they say they wanted to take the ToW’s IP to the next level with the sequel ? Or am I just projecting lol.

Hmm, don’t remember. I hope so lol.

I think there is some data (Linked In) to suggest that they got started with TOW2 as soon as the other game released in late 2019 so IF it is similar scope as the first game it probably isn’t too far away.

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After the few things Jez said about Avowed I’m not so sure it will be Skyrim sized. Sponger did say it along with a lot of information but it remains to be seen if that’s how it turns out.

Their trailer which also made fun of themselves did imply bigger everything. I’m hoping that wasn’t all meant as a joke or something though.

Mario Kart, pack it up. You’ve have a good run!

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i a m ready for the looooop

The way Jeff grubb has talked about suggests a fairly decent delay.

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Aug 29 to Sep 4

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