XboxEra Community Hangout |OT2| Cracking down on shitposting

[Shakez]

@Mostlyharmless

I couldn’t imagine it with shepherd not being voiced.

Believe me, you would imagine it.

[Louay]

@Shakez

This video just makes me like him even more.

yeah i like todd , he is Likable person

[Khalid117x]

FALLOUT 76 WASTELANDERS Gameplay Walkthrough Part 1 - FALLOUT 76 IS NOW GOOD ???

I mean look at this. 30:00 mark. The way everyone moves, this is sooooo bad. Wooden shit, sorry. And why does all characters in the game look like shit. It’s something I noticed with a lot of their games. Characters are always suuuuuper ugly. Why?! I don’t want to be in a world like this.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Mostlyharmless

Three almost zero reason why any AAA game should not have a voiced protagonist.

Let me call Nintendo then to voice Mario, Luigi, Link and everybody else then or Square Enix to start voicing the DQ mc.

@Khalid117x

I will, when they get they’re technology to a certain minimum.

Oh brother you have to be trolling.

[Khalid117x]

@javycane

Oh brother you have to be trolling.

No I’m not. For me this is the reason why I would never play PC games. Often times they look like this. Like they don’t care about just a minimal amount of animation. I mean look after he shoots the guy. He walks towards the bar and the gun just disappears out of his hand. Is it really to much work to do just a tiny animation where he gets his gun in a holster or something. This is breaking the immersion for me.

[Shakez]

@Khalid117x

I mean look at this. 30:00 mark. The way everyone moves, this is sooooo bad. Wooden shit, sorry. And why does all characters in the game look like shit. It’s something I noticed with a lot of their games. Characters are always suuuuuper ugly. Why?! I don’t want to be in a world like this.

I guess Bethesda games are not for you my dude, maybe a single-player linear game is what you’re searching for.

[YoungGrumpyMan]

@thiagosilva

Konami could have said nothing at all and no one would miss them… it’s the sad truth.

[Mostlyharmless]

@javycane

Oh brother you have to be trolling.

Even those games. There’s zero reason for it. Give people the option to turn the voices off. I have a 6 year old daughter with a switch. You know what my biggest problem is. All there games have giant text walls for conservations. She can’t read well enough yet to play almost any of those games.

[peter42O]

@YoungGrumpyMan

While this is a valid opinion (it’s yours, after all), I think it’s a rather simplistic one. A game could still have amazing dialogue, full of charm, even if the protagonist is silent. It all depends on the quality of the writing. A silent protagonist doesn’t, can’t, in my opinion, invalidate amazing writing and story. A game is more than the sum of its parts, after all.

Link is a silent protagonist, and that hasn’t stopped the character from being one of the more iconics ever in a videogame, and the series from being one of the most popular. There is nuance to be found here.

I’d much rather prefer a game with a silent protagonist and great writing, than a vocal protagonist like Outriders, with the writing and dialogue being very poor, in my opinion. Every time the protagonist spoke in Outriders I was always like:

I can agree with the first paragraph in general but if all of the other stuff is great but your own character is just standing there silently, it simply doesn’t have the same affect because there’s no rebuttal, no conversation, no emotion, nothing. If a scene require my character to get pissed and scream to get across a point or emotion like maybe another character dying, it always comes across as “oh, no big deal” because your character again, has no reaction because he doesn’t say anything.

First Person games that have a silent protagonist is bad to me for reasons I have already stated but third person silent protagonist is even worse because you see the character’s face and just nothing. Nothing is there.

A game can have all that amazing stuff that you mention to start your post but if your character is a silent protagonist, I see it all as a total and complete waste because it basically ends up being nothing more than all of those character talking to themselves and getting no responses or conversations or arguments or whatever in return.

Not going to lie, I really wish Nintendo would give Link a damn good male voice because playing BOTW for 22 hours, that was one of my many negatives. Link goes to save Hyrule, defeat Ganon, rescue Zelda, blah blah blah but because he’s silent, he never gives any reasons as to why he does that repeatedly in every game. It just feels no emotionless and empty to me. Like, why even have any character with voice acting. Better off just giving them text like in the old days before voice acting.

Even a game like The Division 2 which I love but holy hell, my #1 complaint that I hope they fix/change/solve if they develop The Division 3 is you can keep the character creation even though I by far prefer preset voiced characters as long as they just get a solid male and female voice actors because watching a cut scene in games with a silent protagonist including The Division 2 is horrible for me. It’s like, why even have any of this to begin with if my character is just going to stand there like a jackass. SMH.

As for Outriders, the voice acting is fine. The writing is meh but it’s not meant to be taken seriously based on what the game is but im very happy that my character talks. I will easily take decent voice acting and mediocre at best writing over a silent protagonist in any game because no matter how great all the other stuff is, it all falls flat to me when my character is just standing there silently doing absolutely nothing.

@Staffy

Todd also said biggest engine overhaul since Oblivion. So that sounds promising. But…he’s a great dude, but man did he tell some fables when presenting Fallout 76 about the sixteen times more detail or whatever. At times he really does exeggerate or well…lie too, sadly. But that was for 76. I don’t remember him overpromising things in the Fallout 4 deep dive or when demoing Skyrim.

Oh, there’s also the new animation system, something that is very, very welcome!

Biggest engine overhaul since Oblivion? So they’re literally still using a game engine that is a minimum of 15 freaking years old, past it’s prime and obsolete? Awesome. SMH.

Also, Todd has said that same exact stuff back in 2015 and 2018. Both times, I still see a shitty looking game from a studio that desperately needs a brand new built from the ground up for the current generation and beyond of tech game engine.

But whatever. Will wait and see how this all plays out but I would in no way, shape or form be shocked or surprised to see day one launch with massive issues and in some cases, the same issues as their previous games.

[Shakez]

@Mostlyharmless

Even those games. There’s zero reason for it. Give people the option to turn the voices off. I have a 6 year old daughter with a switch. You know what my biggest problem is. All there games have giant text walls for conservations. She can’t read well enough yet to play almost any of those games.

If Link ever talks I’m burning my copy of Zelda.

[Khalid117x]

@Shakez

I guess Bethesda games are not for you my dude, maybe a single-player linear game is what you’re searching for.

No absolutely not. I play a lot of different games and like multiplayer or coop a lot. I don’t need a stupid walking Simulator. But come on dude, we can expect a little bit more from a triple a production. And no this is not bashing ethesda I want Xbox and their studios to succeed. But they have to step it up in that department. Even Mass Effect one had better animations!

[pg2g]

@Khalid117x

No absolutely not. I play a lot of different games and like multiplayer or coop a lot. I don’t need a stupid walking Simulator. But come on dude, we can expect a little bit more from a triple a production. And no this is not bashing ethesda I want Xbox and their studios to succeed. But they have to step it up in that department. Even Mass Effect one had better animations!

Just make an attempt to play Skyrim

[Khalid117x]

@Khalid117x

No absolutely not. I play a lot of different games and like multiplayer or coop a lot. I don’t need a stupid walking Simulator. But come on dude, we can expect a little bit more from a triple a production. And no this is not bashing ethesda I want Xbox and their studios to succeed. But they have to step it up in that department. Even Mass Effect one had better animations!

I mean look at Wolfenstein, those games look freaking fantastic. Animations and all. It’s not like zenimax has no studios with good tech.

[Mostlyharmless]

@Shakez

If Link ever talks I’m burning my copy of Zelda.

If they have the choice to you to turn off his voice it would be a non isssue. I bet most people would turn it on though.

[Khalid117x]

@pg2g

Just make an attempt to play Skyrim

Omg I did. There are 30 million people who see something I don’t. It’s just sooo bad. It even begins with the character editor. All the options look like mud. Ahhhh why are people giving this a pass. Ahahahah will never understand

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

Just stop feeding him

[Shakez]

@Khalid117x

No absolutely not. I play a lot of different games and like multiplayer or coop a lot. I don’t need a stupid walking Simulator. But come on dude, we can expect a little bit more from a triple a production. And no this is not bashing ethesda I want Xbox and their studios to succeed. But they have to step it up in that department. Even Mass Effect one had better animations!

I understand what you’re talking about, but you need to understand that fancy animations doesn’t work well with the type of game they make, simple as that.

[Mostlyharmless]

@Shakez

I understand what you’re talking about, but you need to understand that fancy animations doesn’t work well with the type of game they make, simple as that.

That sounds like bullshit to me. If open world games can do it so can Bethesda.

Not saying I don’t like their game. I do, but there is room for improvement in certain areas.

[Khalid117x]

@Shakez

I understand what you’re talking about, but you need to understand that fancy animations doesn’t work well with the type of game they make, simple as that.

I just think a large chunk of the console crowd likes good animations and it makes a lot of that wow factor for many people. They should step it up in that department if they want to get new fans. I mean I want to like their games. And I think it’s probably really cool having a dynamic story branching expansive rpg. I love mass effect for example and those animations are also not top of the line but they are good enough.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Khalid117x

I love mass effect for example and those animations are also not top of the line but they are good enough.

The scope, system and mechanics are not even remotely in the same world.