XboxEra Community Hangout |OT13| The Bakers Dozen

[Freed]

@SheepDip

Something went off track in the Xbox One/PS4 generation. In retrospect, I would trade a return to Xbox 360 fidelity to go back to a world where 2 or 3 years was enough time to develop a substantial AAA game. (Of course, the double edged sword there is the extent to which those fast development times were enabled by crunch.)

Bioware really had a whole Mass Effect trilogy and three Dragon Age games in a span of 7 years on the 360. Holy shit.

[Hue]

Former Arkane Studios President Says Microsoft Closing the Studio Was 'Stupid' and 'Not a Good Decision' - IGN?

I agree too, there was something special there. Yes they messed up with Redfall but their history shows their pedigree and future potential.

[pg2g]

@Hue

Former Arkane Studios President Says Microsoft Closing the Studio Was 'Stupid' and 'Not a Good Decision' - IGN?

I agree too, there was something special there. Yes they messed up with Redfall but their history shows their pedigree and future potential.

Everyone agrees, likely including the people at Xbox that had to make the decision.

[Kals_Els]

@Hue

Former Arkane Studios President Says Microsoft Closing the Studio Was 'Stupid' and 'Not a Good Decision' - IGN?

I agree too, there was something special there. Yes they messed up with Redfall but their history shows their pedigree and future potential.

We all do as we talked about how awful a decision it was with Arkane and Tango(luckily Tango got a second chance).

[Sparda3g]

https://x.com/jezcorden/status/1852840340098556122?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

[Sparda3g]

@Hue

Former Arkane Studios President Says Microsoft Closing the Studio Was 'Stupid' and 'Not a Good Decision' - IGN?

I agree too, there was something special there. Yes they messed up with Redfall but their history shows their pedigree and future potential.

Of course PC Gamer was the one to interview and got their jackpot. That said yes it was a bad move let alone moment. No argument there.

[SheepDip]

@Freed

Bioware really had a whole Mass Effect trilogy and three Dragon Age games in a span of 7 years on the 360. Holy shit.

Right? Granted, Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 were rushed and probably would have been better games with an extra year of development time. But even with Dragon Age 2… A ton of characters and quests, great story, full voice acting. The only area they cut corners in was asset reuse. It’s an unbelievable accomplishment for 18 months of development. Nowadays they spend the first 18 months just deciding what engine to use.

[Freed]

@Hue

Former Arkane Studios President Says Microsoft Closing the Studio Was 'Stupid' and 'Not a Good Decision' - IGN?

I agree too, there was something special there. Yes they messed up with Redfall but their history shows their pedigree and future potential.

I lost all hope of a traditional AAA immersive sim. Austin gone, Deus Ex cancelled, Lyon’s blade being 3rd person, and I’d even like to get excited for WolfEye’s project, it might be cool, but they’re describing it as RPG and I just don’t feel confident expecting Dishonored/Prey/Deus Ex immersive sim-ness from it. It saddens me deeply

[Shadowgasm]

Sony closes a few studios, so naturally IGN writes a story reiterating how terrible Xbox closing a studio was.

[Hue]

@Freed

I lost all hope of a traditional AAA immersive sim. Austin gone, Deus Ex cancelled, Lyon’s blade being 3rd person, and I’d even like to get excited for WolfEye’s project, it might be cool, but they’re describing it as RPG and I just don’t feel confident expecting Dishonored/Prey/Deus Ex immersive sim-ness from it. It saddens me deeply

Deus Ex was another gut punch I agree, hopefully Lyon will work on Dishonored again after Blade.

I’m still very interested in what WolfEye is cooking but as you say it does sound like another RPG.

[pg2g]

It’ll be interesting how they integrate immersive sim elements into Blade.

I think while the dedicated immersive sim genre probably doesn’t have much of a future, we’ll see other genres pick up immersive sim characteristics as the world’s become more reactive.

[Freed]

@pg2g

It’ll be interesting how they integrate immersive sim elements into Blade.

In third person, it’s hard to think of the traditional immersive sim.

@pg2g

I think while the dedicated immersive sim genre probably doesn’t have much of a future, we’ll see other genres pick up immersive sim characteristics as the world’s become more reactive.

There can at last be adjacent to immersive sim, through systemic worlds like BotW or MGSV,.

In its smallest, most basic essence, immsim is about giving the player tools than can be used for multiple purposes to progress, unlike metroidvanias for example where tools and purpose are fixed. Do I see that applied to Blade? Honestly no, and I would love to be proven wrong.

[Kals_Els]

Beating the Entire New Super Mario Bros. Series in under 3 hours -Game Masters- GDQ Hotfix Speedruns

GDQ - Super Mario Bros Series

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Shadowgasm

Sony closes a few studios, so naturally IGN writes a story reiterating how terrible Xbox closing a studio was.

Literally what I called out on the socials. The timing is just so predictable at this point.

[Fiendflag]

@Hue

Deus Ex was another gut punch I agree, hopefully Lyon will work on Dishonored again after Blade.

I’m still very interested in what WolfEye is cooking but as you say it does sound like another RPG.

From the man himself:

"Colantonio says the new immersive sim from his team at WolfEye Studios sits between Prey and New Vegas on that spectrum—“We favour density over size.” That’s all you need to say to rocket to the top of my wishlist. Billed as a “First-person action RPG,” Colantonio and WolfEye CEO Julien Roby make the game sound like a return to their roots at Arkane: “We are even closer to that Fallout thing, [but] still with the values of previous games we’ve worked on like Prey and Dishonored. It’s mobility and that kind of physicality, the level design, the worldbuilding of those games, but served in a structure that is more open than ever.”

Sounds freakin’ awesome to me. Also I have total faith in Arkane Lyon to bring immersive sim elements in awesome ways into Blade, can’t wait to see this one too!

[Staffy]

Monster Hunter Wilds beta…

Is there a way for friend invites to just work? I invite a friend while I’m in a lobby and also sent a friend request. He is in my link party too but I don’t see him at all in the world.

[Hue]

@Fiendflag

…f: "Colantonio says the new immersive sim from his team at WolfEye Studios sits between Prey and New Vegas on that spectrum—“We favour density over size.” That’s all you need to say to rocket to the top of my wishlist. Billed as a “First-person action RPG,” Colantonio and WolfEye CEO Julien Roby make the game sound like a return to their roots at Arkane: “We are even closer to that Fallout thing, [but] still with the values of previous games we’ve worked on like Prey and Dishonored. It’s mobility and that kind of physicality, the level design, the worldbuilding of those games, but served in a structure that is more open than ever.” Sounds freakin’ awesome to me. Also I have total faith in Arkane Lyon to bring immersive sim elements in awesome ways into Blade, can’t wait to see this one too!

Yeah that does sound freaking awesome, it looks like we might be in for a treat. Lyon always do a fantastic job, therefore I also have no concerns about Blade at all, it has a good chance of being my favourite comic book - game adaptation.

I’m very tempted to start another playthrough of Prey now, I might do that tonight .

[Freed]

@Fiendflag

…f: "Colantonio says the new immersive sim from his team at WolfEye Studios sits between Prey and New Vegas on that spectrum—“We favour density over size.” That’s all you need to say to rocket to the top of my wishlist. Billed as a “First-person action RPG,” Colantonio and WolfEye CEO Julien Roby make the game sound like a return to their roots at Arkane: “We are even closer to that Fallout thing, [but] still with the values of previous games we’ve worked on like Prey and Dishonored. It’s mobility and that kind of physicality, the level design, the worldbuilding of those games, but served in a structure that is more open than ever.” Sounds freakin’ awesome to me. Also I have total faith in Arkane Lyon to bring immersive sim elements in awesome ways into Blade, can’t wait to see this one too!

I had this hope for Deathloop and Redfall and both disappointed me in different ways, but mainly because they simply weren’t the immersive sims we wanted. I will not hope again doesn’t mean I don’t expect Blade and WolfEye’s project to turn out good, just not what I would’ve wanted.

[Staffy]

I remember Sony with the “downgraded CoD will cause irreparable damage.” nonsense. Well…

https://x.com/digitalfoundry/status/1852739747841556903

[Freed]

@Staffy

I remember Sony with the “downgraded CoD will cause irreparable damage.” nonsense. Well…

https://x.com/digitalfoundry/status/1852739747841556903

Why is it miraculous that it runs on last-gen? Isn’t the technical makeup based on last-gen’s MW19?