XboxEra Community Hangout |OT12| The Dirty Dozen

https://x.com/knoebelbroet/status/1803413278967636211?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

“Thank God we have FC marketing on our behind or else we will have to do work to please them.”

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I’m going to say the same thing I’ve said the last few shows/skips (and I’ve been right thus far): Sony’s actual first-party output (read: games made by Sony studios) is abysmal for the foreseeable future. Dozens of articles were written about Xbox’s 2022 and yet we now have two years, bleeding into three, where Sony’s output has been less than what Xbox put out in that very year, with no sign that things will improve in the short-term. We have to remember that they cancelled more than a half-dozen games in their internal pipeline, as part of that force-out of Jim Ryan… and games these days aren’t easy or quick to pump out.

So, there are a hell of a lot more red flags regarding Sony’s internal output than there have been for Xbox any time in the last seven years, yet not a single article about the troubles at Sony. Before I see some bad-faith garbage about how second-party and moneyhats are first-party - the articles, and discussion at hand, were strictly about Xbox’s internal output, not their XGS GP partnerships, so if you’re having a good-faith discussion (and the media wasn’t biased), we should be seeing those same articles and discussions. We’re not, and no amount of gaslighting or burying your head in the sand will do anything to help disprove the very problem with the media.

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So, how was this made?

https://x.com/BandaiNamcoUK/status/1803427520244752501

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“What about us anime games developers?”

“What about me remastered folks like Baitos?”

Bamco: What about you.

https://x.com/xbox/status/1803458494315802866?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

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MS shutdown studios that didn’t make money. Sony shutdown studios that didn’t make money. Every company is doing this. It’s in no way “fair” to do this to MS than it is to literally every other gaming company.

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In fairness, Jason was loosely comparing Microsoft to Nintendo, who rarely close studios nowadays.

Generally I agree though. It’s very annoying that MS get crapped on more than other companies for doing the same thing. However, I have a hard time trying to deflect this kind of criticism, even when it’s overboard. I still find it a very reasonable thing to criticize, especially because the inferred promise of Game Pass was rising tides lift all boats.

Yeah, they don’t get that kind of marketing. But I wonder how it was made. It looks really good.

In other quite unexpected news…

https://x.com/HazzadorGamin/status/1803462243025387983

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By that logic, if or when Nintendo close down a studio around this time, the world will implode.

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After PS presentation, I can see why.

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https://x.com/xbox/status/1803472918783152160?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

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https://x.com/looygi/status/1803193408032481327

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C’mon, man. Why we doing this?

True although Playstation closed down London Studio which IMO hasn’t done anything notable since The Getaway in 2002. They basically become the SingStar studio after that.

Xbox on the other hand closed down the studios behind beloved IP’s like Prey, Dishonored, Evil Within and a recent GOTY contender in Hi-Fi Rush.

I think there’s quite a notable difference there, which would support Justin’s point to be honest. Even if they are beloved games there’s a chance the studio will be closed down and they should be opened up to that criticism.

I haven’t heard a single person upset that they won’t get SingStar 49.

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Doing what?

Here’s the thing. The closure from Xbox side shouldn’t be that gigantic breaking news. But it was their first time closing a studio after acquiring so many. Nintendo has yet to close one though I always hear 2019 there was one. So if they close one down, the fans will lose their mind. Like Joker from Dark Knight said, people will freak out over an icon name in headline.

Closing a studio is closing a studio. people still lose their jobs. If these guys care so much when one does it they should care just as much when the other does it too. Again criticism is fine but there is plenty to go around. People just want consistency is all.

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That’s not the only studio they’ve killed

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Xbox closed down some studios but they have owned it. Phil Spencer has said a couple of times now it’s about running a successful business. We can all infer but the reasons why Tango was shut down was not given but we also saw some amazing looking games at the showcase that we weren’t expecting. Who knows what games Xbox may have in partnership deals.

Totally forgot they made Ashen!

https://x.com/PlayFlintlock/status/1803473386569437615

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Weird post, reads like London Studio “had it coming”. And they worked on more than Singstar. All these closures are equally bad.

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