XboxEra Community Hangout |OT12| The Dirty Dozen

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Will be interesting to see how this holds up to DLSS 2, if indeed it’s using hardware accelerated image up-scaling like this article says.

Yes you are correct. im fine with those options being there I just prefer they dont on certain games and like i said its my opinion. if people want souls games with difficulty options they have those like the jedi games from respawn and now rise of ronin but I like the game thats that force you to do itthe hard way.

Looks like a pretty decent bump from base PS5. I am now curious to see Xbox response (if any).

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Looks like a worthy purchase if u don’t already have a PS5 but not something worth upgrading for IMO. Pretty modest upgrade.

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I’m staggered if I’m honest - that much better ray tracing isn’t even available on the top end AMD cards as they currently stand.

That upscaling tech must be far beyond AMD’s, closer to DLSS, to get that kind of performance.

The teraflops I suspect as someone else has said is a slight misnomer, as we’d be looking over a grand otherwise.

If that’s the specs I’ll be getting one to play the games I’ve missed at the best graphics settings - I’d also buy a Pro Series X.

Am thinking my PC upgrade can wait - if these kind of improvements are possible and Nvidia are unveiling the 50 series soon I might as well wait a while and see how tech improves for a year or two

AMD’s RT performance was pretty bad, so a nice boost there is expected IMO.

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Yeah you have to basically break their structure, then when the prompt comes up to finish them you do nothing. They attack, you break their structure again and a prompt will come up that allows you to spare them. There are some differences with the final boss battle if you do this as well.

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AMD’s new GPUs this year will have better ray tracing than the PS5 Pro, undoubtedly.

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Yep but their current cards don’t have it - the next generation is rumoured to be closer to Nvidia but I’d have thought this upgrade would have used the same generation as the PS5 and XSX.

It’s interesting if they are using the next one - guess nowadays they’re all pretty similar, and it does suggest there will be quite a shake up in the PC market too.

Do think Xbox has to respond if this is the case - we’re talking such big improvement gains in ā€œnext genā€ technology such as ray tracing that they can’t let Sony have that edge combined with the best supported console…

im not gonna play it again but i want to see what happen on youtube. I killed everyone

Well their current top of the line cards were released nearly 2 years ago, so it makes sense since the PS5 seems to be based on RDNA4.

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Don’t think Xbox has to respond at all, I don’t think a huge chunk of the population even knows what RT is or cares. This is the easiest pro to not respond to IMO. The differences are in imagine quality (better upscaler) and RT

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Yeah so did I my first time around. It’s better to do that on the first playthrough anyway to get the patterns down because sparing them is hard as hell at first. Once you learn how to break their structure quickly it becomes easy. The challenge mode helped a lot since there are certain challenges where enemies will not die until you break their structure.

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Think that the chunk that don’t care go PS5 more anyway though - Xbox seems to be more enthusiasts as we’ve stuck with Xbox through the years / have chosen Xbox while the PlayStation is the ā€œdefaultā€ for casual players.

So a higher percentage of Xbox players would probably buy a Pro X that PlayStation ones would buy a PS5 Pro - think the One X was a good example too of it allowing you to capture the enthusiasts.

They don’t have to respond, but think it’ll appear odd if they don’t given the extra margin per unit for not much additional R&D over the current unit

If they’re truly going for a 2026 release for their next gen Xbox series X successor, it would likely be pointless to release a Pro console now anyway. may as well ride out the rest of the gen. I still don’t really see a need for a Pro model at this point anyway, is RT really that big of a deal? At least compared to the last time we got Pro consoles when 4K TV adoption was becoming more of a thing.

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What extra margin and how do we know how much R&D would be involved? It’s likely a significant investment to do the Pro and they are already losing money at the costs of the XSX.

This a marginal upgrade over the XSX IMO. They should focus on next gen, whether that’s 2026 or 2028.

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I’m not expecting much due to memory bandwidth limits and not increasing memory capacity.

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While I’d enjoy a more powerful X (hence my hope they’ll respond) I can’t argue that if next gen starts 2026 it’s not so necessary.

In that case I’ll happily buy that on release instead - and it does increase the likelihood of Xbox stealing a march on PlayStation by a year or so like they did with the 360.

As a Pro that powerful would suggest Sony are aiming for 2027 or so, given it’d be that long before they could really build a PS6 significantly better than the Pro…

About the PS5 Pro seeing how PS4 Pro was a pretty bad upgrade over the PS4 and how Sony did the bare minimum to take advantage of the PS4 Pro last gen with their 1st party games I’d keep expectations in check. :man_shrugging:

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