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I own spiderman on PC so Iām speaking from my experience with the game and not from the niche community that does not represent the entire playstation playerbase on ResetEra.
Spiderman has a really good open world and the side objectives are worth going after, I know several people who have platinumed the game. Spiderman is objectively one of the best games of last generation no question, its a singleplayer game that appeals to such a broad audience.
You should look up āopinionā the next time.
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If weāre going by the ābroadā consensus and ignoring internet chatter, the vast majority of games will sound flawless
Youāre welcome to think that itās this high quality game with no flaws, Iām sure many do but the side quests are absolutely a common complaint about the game as well as the MJ sections, that doesnāt mean itās bad game or that itās not a high quality game, donāt think anyone here is even saying that, even 10/10 games have flaws
Physical is close to dead on xbox so I donāt blame them but I do agree they shouldnāt give up on it completely
They did patent some extra disc drive type thing a year of two ago so maybe that have they will get around it so they can sell the digital x but the disk drive separate for those that want it
The doomer Phil deposition really shows that without Activision, it would have most likely been over for MS gaming. Actually hurts to read. Also if I ever feel bad about myself being incompetent about something Iām just going to remember that I can never fuck up as bad as the FTC.
Link/pic if possible
I have the game on PC also, but mentioned Resetera as itās the only other forum I visit and is heavily populated by PS users. My opinion on the side-content is the same as the overriding opinion I see there, but I could be labelled as biased, as I prefer gaming on Xbox.
It shouldnāt be a surprise that people find the side-content lacking, as itās an Insomniac title and in my experience, theyāve always been poor at it. Sunshine Overdrive, as much as I love it overall, had the same issue.
I thought the sunset overdrive side content was really fun. When I had my former Series S one of the first games I reinstalled was sunset overdrive and bought the deluxe edition to play through the DLC, and tried to go after the side content for achievements.
Yeah, the side stuff really wasnāt anything special in Spider Man 1. The only side mission I remember liking is the Tombstone one.
Thatās one of them and I read another. Let me see if I can find it. Thanks to vixolus on ResetEra.
14 Q. If it doesnāt work out to gain
15 efficient share in mobile would Microsoft
16 then have an incentive to start pulling some
17 of these levers to ensure that business can
18 survive in the 200 million TAM for console?
19 A. If you look at Microsoft as a
20 global business and its scale, the Sony
21 business inside of Microsoft is really no
22 more meaningful than the Xbox business, itās
23 not a ā the size of business that Microsoft
24 is pursuing with all of its resources. Our
25 pivot in this business is to constantly talk
2 about three billion gamers, $200 billion in
3 revenue top line and our ability to be a
4 participant in that growth. I donāt ā in
5 any world where we would not succeed on
6 mobile and PC and decide that we would go
7 backwards to a closed device flat TAM market
8 and invest our resources there, I would not
9 advocate for that.
10 Q. So, itās either ā I want to be
11 clear about this, in three to four years,
12 itās either that Microsoft succeeds ā
13 Microsoft Gaming succeeds in going to achieve
14 what you think it needs to achieve in the
15 vision for mobile and PC or said shutdown was
16 too draconian, but ā or what?
17 A. Iāll call it divesting of what we
18 have. My view is if we donāt succeed on
19 mobile, that itās really been caused by the
20 two mobile platform holders excluding us from
21 distributing our service. And we see that
22 today where Apple blocks us from launching on
23 their platform, through their store, I should
24 say, and Google really constrains our ability
25 to succeed. And how weāre trying to counter
2 that is to acquire some popular mobile
3 content to help us create some allure for
4 gamers that we can then use to have some
5 engagement on those platforms where we might
6 be able to use cloud and other distribution
7 to gain a foothold on those platforms.
8 Because if we donāt gain a foothold on
9 mobile, thereās really no future for us, in
10 Microsoft investment in gaming.
11 Q. Do you think that thesis that you
12 just expressed ā
13 THE COURT REPORTER: Iām sorry.
14 Can you say that again?
15 Q. Do you think that thesis that you
16 just expressed is understood in the
17 marketplace ā
18 A. No.
19 Q. ā about Microsoft Gaming?
20 A. No. No, in terms of ā in terms of
21 trying to drive excitement with our customers
22 and our developers and our partners, I try
23 not go out with the Phil doom and gloom
24 conversation about where we are. But I know
25 from the time I took this job, Satya, one of
2 the first conversations I had with him is, he
3 wasnāt sure why weāre in the gaming business.
4 But at that point, in the Xbox One
5 generation, he said we clearly are ā weāre
6 out of position with our product, so letās go
7 try to fix that and then decide what we
8 should go do. And weāve made progress
9 through innovations like Xbox Cloud Gaming
10 and Game Pass and shipping our games on PC.
11 But we will reach the asymptote of where we
12 can make progress definitely on console,
13 weāre probably already there. We will ship
14 probably half of the consoles that
15 PlayStation does this next year. And if we
16 donāt, so we have to make progress in mobile.
17 But I donāt go out with that on my kind of
18 gaming T-shirt when Iām doing PR.
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Iām more talking about the collection of toilet rolls and the tower defense stuff.
The collection of toilet rolls is enjoyable to go after and I enjoyed the tower defense stuff. Itās very enjoyable to zone out to while listening to podcasts and thatās what I was doing while playing the optional side content.
If they were to make Spider-Man 2 have say Witcher 3 style side quests the game would probably take longer to come out and a lot of people never finish all the side content even if itās high quality. I think PlayStation needs a game right now due to the drought. I think the collect a-thon stuff can be fun, I had a lot of fun collecting orbs in Crackdown 3 and thatās a game that people seem to not enjoy, but I do.
Hence, why you like the side-content in Spider-Man, right up your alley!
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They had toilet paper roll collection side quests? Lmao wtf.
I know Phil is in pure shambles in some of these emails but heās one funny ass guy, man.
āI think we are going to see that our next big new game launch is RedFall (Hopefully).ā
lmaooo
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Another one to the point of MS gaming not surviving without Activision.
6 Q. When you say "getting us out of the
7 market," do you mean Microsoft stops selling
8 a console or do you mean Microsoft exits
9 gaming?
10 A. When I just stated it I was more of
11 the latter. Clearly for Sony specifically,
12 us exiting the console business would be
13 enough for them to be able to realize their
14 success with their console business. So,
15 they might have less, I mightāve over ā I
16 may be over-claimed my strategic thesis for
17 them in saying that they would desire that we
18 completely exit the gaming business. They
19 would ā us exiting the console business
20 would benefit Sony pretty directly.
21 Q. Right. I think we talked earlier
22 some hours ago, if Microsoft is not in a
23 position, right, to exit the console business
24 until either subscription or cloud uptake is
25 sufficient to offset the loss from losing
2 console business, correct, as a strategic
3 matter?
4 A. Thatās not ā thatās not what I
5 said.
6 What I tried to share was weāre
7 gonna get to a point before the launch of
8 a new generation, assuming we got to
9 Generation 10 launch, where we have not made
10 progress off of console that our strategic
11 thesis are ā are you there? I canāt ā
12 Q. Iām here.
13 A. Okay. Our strategic thesis around
14 gaming has failed, and I believe that senior
15 leadership team at Microsoft, and I might
16 even advocate for it, would decide to exit
17 the business, not as an offset of revenue, I
18 mean, weāre ten percent of Microsoftās
19 revenue, weāre not a something that where the
20 company needs to backfill the gaming revenue
21 for Microsoftās benefit, it is more our
22 strategy, given their three billion people
23 who play video games, if we never get out
24 of this 200 million battle ā battle for the
25 200 million people who want to buy a gaming
2 console, this isnāt a business that Microsoft
3 should be in.
4 So, my point was not about a
5 replacement for the strategy, but rather
6 success on the strategy of meeting gamers
7 where they are.
8 Q. And when you say itās not a
business Microsoft should be in, do you mean
10 all of gaming, that Microsoft Gaming would
11 cease to be a business at Microsoft or just
12 console?
13 A. I would ā I mean all up 'cause
14 what Iām saying is, if you give us two or
15 three, four more years and we get to this
16 point where we havenāt had success on PC in
17 that time frame and we havenāt had success on
18 mobile, and I believe I was responding to
19 your question about what time frame do you
20 need to see success in PC and mobile, that if
21 weāve seen basically no progress on those two
22 platforms, then I would say weāre failing to
23 meet gamersā needs on console ā sorry, on
24 mobile, failing to meet gamersā needs on PC
25 and this console business weāre a distant
2 third place to two entrenched competitors
3 without any real dynamic to cause that market
4 to change, so I ā I would ā not trying to
5 play victim, but I would advocate that the
6 company should look to deploy the 10,000
7 people that work on Xbox now in something
8 where we thought we could actually make
9 progress.
Even after the acquisitions of all these studios and the whole of Zenimax and the success of Game Pass? Damn!
I donāt want to imagine such a thing, only Sony and Nintendo in console gaming left.
Aye. Just a thing to collect and gave you a bonus/discount of some sorts, from what I can remember. Not as bad as collecting flags in AC, or shooting pigeons in GTA IV, but pretty by-the-numbers padding in my opinion.
That would be the verification can future people were afraid of ten years ago lol.
āSing the Champions League anthem to continue playing or buy play credits to skip advertsā
Emails also confirm that 12 month showcase was solely because they were light on content. Justice for those who called it and got grief from their fellow community members.
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