XboxEra Community Hangout |OT11| It Goes To 11!

lol so you were definitely correct. My 4 #Palworld posts have been popular.

https://x.com/AddictiveAI/status/1747220294622704042?s=20

Any more ideas :bulb:? I did Pikachu, Ash, Snorlax, eevee, and charizard with guns.

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Mhmmm. Make Wolfenstein 2009 backwards compatible in January and i will patiently wait for the next drop until Summer.

Deal?

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People aren’t capable of having a nuanced conversation in regards to non traditional gaming models.

People would just rather dunk on subscriptions and Ubisoft for free brownie nosed points from gamers like certain Larian devs currently do.

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I guess it will be dead before the six months exclusive window expires.

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It just seems like so much scaremongering to me. Wake me up when there’s any evidence whatsoever that the ability to purchase games is going away, and subscriptions aren’t just an additional option for access.

Subscription has long been the dominant access model for music and movies, but you can still buy CDs and Blu-rays if you want to. Even if physical game discs fall by the wayside, there’s no sign that game purchases are going away.

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Lolwut , I didn’t realize they’re skipping pc too . Such a dumb move

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I think it’s one of the last genius moves of the old Sony aligned board, which got sacked last year.

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People love to bring up music , but streaming saved that industry . It pretty much killed piracy for many . Also I feel streaming movies and TV shows slowed down piracy too . Also, sub services does provide a great source for discovery because there are plenty of musicians, shows , movies, and video games that benefited from discovery via sub services .

I think for video game sub services we can’t look at it through the same lense as other forms of entertainment when it comes to streaming . I don’t think sub services hurt quality of games because most games today are coming hot and I don’t think sub service influences the lack of quality in games at launch or in general

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that there was a lot of skepticism regarding the viability of Steam, given the prevalence and ease of pirating PC games. If memory serves, Newell’s attitude was that providing easy and cheap access to games would offset that.

Obviously PC game piracy is still around but Valve plainly don’t have any issue staying profitable. I think that the viability of the subscription model is resting on the same principle: providing cheap and easy access to games, such that that slice is profitable. It’s one facet of an entire portfolio, one which doesn’t eschew traditional purchase-based models but supplements it.

Frankly, I was extremely dubious about subscription services for games. I didn’t have any subscriptions at all before I decided to give Game Pass a shot, and that was something that happened by degrees.

First I had to downsize my massive collection of physical games, I had to dip my toe into digital purchases (looking at Steam as an example of a successful and popular digital storefront). I had to take a hard look at the games I have access to and my playing habits. I determined that it was worth putting down money for the conversion trick to see how it works. It took several steps that I wasn’t especially motivated to contemplate.

I think that MS’s big challenge is in making GP ubiquitous enough that people are aware of the great value it offers while being able to access it extremely easily. They’re clearly working on both, given their first-party bolstering and domain expansion. Turn the steps that I took haltingly and make it into a gentle slope, so to speak.

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“vertical stand sold separately.”

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They were fined by EU if I remember correctly and forced to add it to the description of their bundles. :rofl:

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:phil_lmao:

I think the last part is the tough part for Microsoft . I think the general audience aren’t aware of it or see the value in the service . Microsoft needs to find ways to reach the general audience about the service . For example, some of my friends didn’t know what gamepass was, but liked the value of ps+ extra and subbed to it and were happy to have acccess to library of games . Now imagine if those gamers got to try out gamepass

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Exactly, and even that is presumably contingent on your friends already having a PlayStation. It’s the default console, and that’s a big hurdle for MS to overcome. A push to PC, TVs, and mobile (and yes, potentially other consoles though I’m not keen on kicking off that discussion) makes a lot of sense in that context.

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When technology progresses, it comes with change whether that’s business models like subscriptions or how games are made( like AI tech). Some people don’t like change so they lash out on it, saying the “old ways” is perfectly fine as it is. There is a reason why the industry are moving on from the traditional sales model and change is gonna happen wether people like it or not.

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https://x.com/MatPiscatella/status/1747660051269988522?s=20

https://x.com/MatPiscatella/status/1747660483094863914?s=20

love this take

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Rumoured Steam Deck 2 specs for Q4 2026 release:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/JuCTMhm9zN

https://x.com/idlesloth84_/status/1747673627447775545?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

My God, this game is really happening.

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I feel like there’s still a good amount of potential growth for MS with GP, if console sales weren’t so bad and the PC store wasn’t so ass I think it would help and of course CoD is on the way which might shift a fair amount of casuals to the service

That being said, subs are always going to have a limit, Netflix is at the 200m range iirc and it doesn’t seem to be growing anymore, probably why they are expanding into other areas

If they can nail their mobile store and get their big games on there natively going forward, that’s where the real growth for GP will be

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Since I stopped collecting games and caring about owning games since the second half of the Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 generation, I have no issues with what Ubisoft wants to do.

As long as I get their games on Ubisoft+ day one for a cheap monthly rental, I will be a happy camper. :joy:

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