XboxEra Community Hangout |OT| Safe Space no longer required (Part 1)

[batman14]

@anon15396042

I have no idea. Other people mentioned them & I was just adding my take.

Oh alright

[Mort]

@Djbirdman26

I think I’m at the end since I believe there’s only 3 acts and I’m either on the side missions between chapter 7 and 8 or 6 and 7. The game has been really fun loss one person early on when learning the ropes but manage to keep it pretty clean since.

Scouts still are my least favorite to use but I’ve gotten use to them. Some missions have had to redo mainly the holding points as I try to figure out where best to locate the team to hold both at the same time… never get the challenge for holding them for the required turns in a row as one enemy will always find a way to get to one circle on the final one. O well most my gear isn’t changing any more anyways.

Hehe, Scouts are one of my favourites With focus on cloak and grenades they can turn the tide in a battle singlehandedly. Need some specific gear for that though.

I really like all the side missions too, the challenge of going for the optionals is fun. I think there is a system with missions after the story ends so I’ll keep it around after I’m done with the story just to do a mission here and there.

[BlackheartVinyl]

@PsyDec

Is co-op confirmed for far cry 6?

No, but it’s been in every one of the last few.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Mort

Isn’t FREE with XGPU a pretty damn good price actually?

this should NOT become standard and is a very troubling argument imo. Coming free with GPU should not negate concerns of overpricing. I already see it happening, whenever a game’s value is brought up, if there’s an argument to be made that the game or DLC should have costed less in retail, saying “but it’s in gamepass tho” should not cut it.

Not everyone cares or will care about Gamepass, and it has nothing to do with its value, but more so its inherent model. Not everyone cares about or want to be tied down to subscriptions to access their games. Phil has emphasised that retail will continue to matter to Xbox just as much as subscriptions, and it should. Getting to play a game amongst others at a price, one at which you’d lose access when you stop paying a sub is different to purchasing a whole game and playing it whenever you want. That is why I was so glad when Phil mentioned publishing on Steam for example has become sort of an implicit understanding amongst their audience.

So yeah, if a DLC or a game is overpriced, it is overpriced, doesn’t matter if it is in Gamepass, because the overpriced part is being judged on its retail value, not a generalized subscription that includes it, but is still external to it.

[Opatschi]

@Ruthwik_Rao

…, but more so its inherent model. Not everyone cares about or want to be tied down to subscriptions to access their games. Phil has emphasised that retail will continue to matter to Xbox just as much as subscriptions, and it should. Getting to play a game amongst others at a price, one at which you’d lose access when you stop paying a sub is different to purchasing a whole game and playing it whenever you want. That is why I was so glad when Phil mentioned publishing on Steam for example has become sort of an implicit understanding amongst their audience. So yeah, if a DLC or a game is overpriced, it is overpriced, doesn’t matter if it is in Gamepass, because the overpriced part is being judged on its retail value, not a generalized subscription that includes it, but is still external to it.

Is 20€ for a cinematic singleplayer 3 hour campaign to much? What remains of eden finch launched at the same price. So did Inside and many other games with a short runtime.

[PsyDec]

@Mort

Isn’t FREE with XGPU a pretty damn good price actually?

Of course, but many reviewers conveniently ignore it or at the very least have that ‘pricing option’ impact the score they give.

[batman14]

Just a heads up to any Resident evil fans there was a big leak so watch out for Spoilers

[Opatschi]

I made up my mind and will wait for the next gen patch on Cyberpunk. Until then I have enough games to play starting with dragon quest

[Mort]

@Ruthwik_Rao

…, but more so its inherent model. Not everyone cares about or want to be tied down to subscriptions to access their games. Phil has emphasised that retail will continue to matter to Xbox just as much as subscriptions, and it should. Getting to play a game amongst others at a price, one at which you’d lose access when you stop paying a sub is different to purchasing a whole game and playing it whenever you want. That is why I was so glad when Phil mentioned publishing on Steam for example has become sort of an implicit understanding amongst their audience. So yeah, if a DLC or a game is overpriced, it is overpriced, doesn’t matter if it is in Gamepass, because the overpriced part is being judged on its retail value, not a generalized subscription that includes it, but is still external to it.

I don’t worry very much about the price of Stranger Things DVD-box either, cause you know it’s on Netflix.

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

@batman14

Just a heads up to any Resident evil fans there was a big leak so watch out for Spoilers

Damn

[BadNews]

wow just bought immortal Fenyx for $45 on amazon, crazy how fast that game went on sale. I didn’t see xbox version, so went with playstation.

@DeoGame you might be interested in this deal since it’s available on amazon canada

[Opatschi]

@BadNews

wow just bought immortal Fenyx for $45 on amazon, crazy how fast that game went on sale. I didn’t see xbox version, so went with playstation.

you might be interested in this deal since it’s available on amazon canada

this game is high up on my list 30€ and I take it for now Im waiting on Cyberpunk next gen and ply Dragon Quest also Hivebuster is coming tomorrow

[brunopcosta1 (Bruno Costa)]

@BadNews

wow just bought immortal Fenyx for $45 on amazon, crazy how fast that game went on sale. I didn’t see xbox version, so went with playstation.

you might be interested in this deal since it’s available on amazon canada

Hopefully it gets discounted on the Microsoft Store soon enough. Can’t wait to try this game!

I’ve been waiting for sales on NBA 2K21, DMC5:SE, Immortals, Observer and Overcooked

[BlackheartVinyl]

Hard for me to care about Xbox gamers who refuse to sign up for Game Pass. They’re doing it to themselves.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Mort

I don’t worry very much about the price of Stranger Things DVD-box either, cause you know it’s on Netflix.

games are not like television or movies on several levels, this argument is very disingenuous. For starters, no one cares about “owning Stranger Things on CD”, yet more people care about owning their games than being subbed, although subs as a model is growing for sure, but it would be a horrible future if games became like Netflix. Secondly, Netflix and the like aren’t tied down by several layers of DRM like games (and gamepass) are. There’s an entire essay I can write about why stringent DRM is not good for the preservation of the medium but I digress.

Also, the point isn’t about a gamepass member having access to it, it’s about everyone else who doesn’t care about gamepass (those on Steam for example) getting it at a reasonable price. Saying “but it’s free on gamepass” is therefore a circular argument.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Opatschi

I made up my mind and will wait for the next gen patch on Cyberpunk. Until then I have enough games to play starting with dragon quest

I’m not arguing whether or not 20 dollars is reasonable for the DLC, I’m just arguing something being on gamepass doesn’t negate concerns of overpricing on retail versions, nothing to do with Gears DLC in particular.

[BadNews]

@brunopcosta1

Hopefully it gets discounted on the Microsoft Store soon enough. Can’t wait to try this game!

I’ve been waiting for sales on NBA 2K21, DMC5:SE, Immortals, Observer and Overcooked

yeah for pretty much 50% off is too good for a deal to pass up. I think it will go on sale soon, heck maybe even for the end of year sale tbh, and will most likel be 35% off like watchdog was

[Ruthwik_Rao]

The point is simple. Does Xbox audience only want to welcome a userbase that is also 100% onboard with gamepass, or is it gonna be flexible for all those as well who might not care about the model as much but still want to access their games traditionally? I hope it’s the latter, and it’s a demographic I’m personally in.

[Mort]

@Ruthwik_Rao

…like television or movies on several levels, this argument is very disingenuous. For starters, no one cares about “owning Stranger Things on CD”, yet more people care about owning their games than being subbed, although subs as a model is growing for sure, but it would be a horrible future if games became like Netflix. Secondly, Netflix and the like aren’t tied down by several layers of DRM like games (and gamepass) are. There’s an entire essay I can write about why stringent DRM is not good for the preservation of the medium but I digress. Also, the point isn’t about a gamepass member having access to it, it’s about everyone else who doesn’t care about gamepass (those on Steam for example) getting it at a reasonable price. Saying “but it’s free on gamepass” is therefore a circular argument.

Well, that’s your opinion. It’s still available for $0 for me, or a whopping $1 for someone new to XGP. If you want to own it to replay it in some distance future I’m sure there will be digital sales. Or use the discount you get with… Xbox Game Pass. After a couple months that should be a 20% discount so $16. However way you twist it, it is not expensive.

[BadNews]

@Ruthwik_Rao

The point is simple. Does Xbox audience only want to welcome a userbase that is also 100% onboard with gamepass, or is it gonna be flexible for all those as well who might not care about the model as much but still want to access their games traditionally?

I think they still care about those gamers because if they didn’t they wouldn’t release games on steam. I think its a trade off, and they know once 23 studios start churning games non gamepass gamers will buy those games. However, I do think gamepass is a must if in xbox ecosysystem since its great value