Xbox multi platform discussion

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@pg2g

Halo is too far gone at this point. Porting it wouldn’t save it’s reputation haha.

I dunno, Infinite is in a pretty great place at the moment with forge and PVE elements and everything else they have added. I could see them getting a lot of Playstation users trying the game out of curiousity and then sticking with it.

[Vivir]

@CryOn

But if Microsoft start putting Halo, Gears and Forza day 1 on PlayStation I don’t see how it’s not gonna damage their storefront or hardware.

Their hardware literally can’t get any worse.

At this point, there’s more benefits than there are negatives. FH, Halo and Gears are all skewed more to the average console gamer than it is for PC gamers. It only helps those IP’s.

[pg2g]

@Callangoso

I get you. I just feel like there’s two kind of Xbox fans now. The ones who want the classic Xbox console experience that we had since the original Xbox, and the ones who want non traditional ways of playing, be it a PC/console hybrid or cloud.

This FH5 news may be good for the second kind of fan, but as a fan of the classic Xbox consoles experience, this doesn’t sound like good news at all. It my be good for the company as a whole, but for me, as a hardware fan, I’m not happy at all.

Yeah, I know where you’re coming from. That said… it sounds like the first group isn’t enough (and is likely at least not growing based on market trends).

It might be because in a multi platform owner, but I think this industry is most interesting when the different platforms are doing different things and leaning into their own specific strengths which is what it sounds like we’re heading towards.

Ultimately as long as I continue to get the sw none of this bothers me that much. If Xbox can go make enough off of porting FH5 to fund another AAA game then that’s a win for me.

[CryOn]

@Vivir

Their hardware literally can’t get any worse.

Oh it definitely can get worse. Like shrinking Xbox presents in retail stores which could lead to no Xbox console in retail stores.

[Talesunheard]

Halo may not be of importance but it does have history so porting history to a rival platform does more harm for the brand than good.

Also, Playstation will be making more third party exclusives and that is honestly going to be a bad hand for Xbox with them porting games over. So how to they beat that? Like exclusive are something that draws an audience its need for anything based on entertainment. Like Netflix for example.

[Sydthy]

forza horizon 5, really going to get our collective panties in a twist over a 3 year old game?

what value does this game even offer to us anymore? it’s yesterday’s news, great game but yesterday’s.

Just going to throw it out there -

“Permanent exclusives” are fucking dumb and useless to the brand as well as the customer base, how valuable is this game to anyone now really?

how valuable is GOW Ragnarök to the PS userbase now?

the answer is diddly squat out side of sad basement dwellers still living like it’s 1999. nobody is buying an Xbox for FH5 in 2024 just like nobody is buying a PS for GOW in 2024, an addition yes, but not the sole reason. People are buying consoles for this years / next years games, not last or year before.

It’s why you never see a film stay in the cinema forever, cos it’s not cost effective and the movie makes a decent amount of money being in sub services and home DVD/Bluray.

Hell some movies are unprofitable until they move to these other formats. Does that stop people going to the cinema? No it doesn’t, is it a travesty that ruins the experience / defeats the purpose of the cinema cos in 6 - 12 months you can watch it in other ways? No. people are paying extra to be 1st to see it - be part of the moment when it’s new and the talk of the town.

[Vivir]

@CryOn

Oh it definitely can get worse. Like shrinking Xbox presents in retail stores which could lead to no Xbox console in retail stores.

That’s already happening outside of North America. Each generation is going to sell less than the previous one. Nothing is going to change that.

Xbox can’t leave money on the table for hypotheticals anymore. There’s nothing they can do that will suddenly make their hardware sell like it did in the 360 days. They either wishfully hope their hardware starts selling again or be proactive in growing their games.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@Vivir

That’s already happening outside of North America. Each generation is going to sell less than the previous one. Nothing is going to change that.

Xbox can’t leave money on the table for hypotheticals anymore. There’s nothing they can do that will suddenly make their hardware sell like it did in the 360 days. They either wishfully hope their hardware starts selling again or be proactive in growing their games.

They are clearly happy with 30+ million a generation as long as they can keep growing in other areas. People are doing backflips for the Steam Deck and that thing is at 5+.

[CryOn]

@Vivir

That’s already happening outside of North America. Each generation is going to sell less than the previous one. Nothing is going to change that.

Xbox can’t leave money on the table for hypotheticals anymore. There’s nothing they can do that will suddenly make their hardware sell like it did in the 360 days. They either wishfully hope their hardware starts selling again or be proactive in growing their games.

Or like putting money into marketing like being a partner for the Champions League, the biggest international football competition in Europe.

But the ship has probably sailed.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

Btw, another part of that thread was NateDrake stating that FF16 is coming to Xbox

[CryOn]

@Doncabesa

…Btw, another part of that thread was NateDrake stating that FF16 is coming to Xbox image1440×1114 146 KB

That’s a Square Enix IP, not PlayStation. And wasn’t FF7 the game that’s permanent exclusive ?

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@CryOn

That’s a Square Enix IP, not PlayStation. And wasn’t FF7 the game that’s permanent exclusive ?

I don’t care, I was just pointing out something else from the thread that spawned this article.

[CryOn]

@Doncabesa

I don’t care, I was just pointing out something else from the thread that spawned this article.

Ah okay. I thought you used this as an example that Sony is bringing their games to Xbox.

[mambitospt (John)]

Its only a matter of time now until everything releases day and date on the PlayStation. Xbox isn’t making enough on the hardware and subscriptions are slowly growing, they are a money hungry division now after all that spending.

[Sydthy]

@CryOn

Or like putting money into marketing like being a partner for the Champions League, the biggest international football competition in Europe.

But the ship has probably sailed.

yea MS should “waste money” on that stuff in Europe, has the intelligence of the internet truly gone into the gutter, how can so many not see why it would be such as waste of money.

MS, during the 360 gen tried in Europe and came up short against a factually inferior over-priced console with no games worth a damn and a pointless media format (for the time). That was 2006, Sony has had a dominance in that region for nigh on 20 years at this point, how much money do you think MS would have to spend? Also how much do you really think will be gained from doing so?

It’s rhetorical by the way, not a lot is the answer. That money is better spent bumping up their PC initiative (that is the biggest gaming market in the region by quite a margin) instead.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@mambitospt

Its only a matter of time now until everything releases day and date on the PlayStation. Xbox isn’t making enough on the hardware and subscriptions are slowly growing, they are a money hungry division now after all that spending.

Great to see you back after 2 months, they just made 6 billion dollars in the last quarter. They’re doing this because they’ve realized it is crazy not to. It’s an injection of players into a dying GaaS title.

@Sydthy

… yea MS should “waste money” on that stuff in Europe, has the intelligence of the internet truly gone into the gutter, how can so many not see why it would be such as waste of money. MS, during the 360 gen tried in Europe and came up short against a factually inferior over-priced console with no games worth a damn and a pointless media format (for the time). That was 2006, Sony has had a dominance in that region for nigh on 20 years at this point, how much money do you think MS would have to spend? Also how much do you really think will be gained from doing so? It’s rhetorical by the way, not a lot is the answer. That money is better spent bumping up their PC initiative (that is the biggest gaming market in the region by quite a margin) instead.

“I just want it to feel like the 360” is one of the biggest problems when discussing Xbox online. People want an industry that’s long dead.

[BadNews]

@mambitospt

Its only a matter of time now until everything releases day and date on the PlayStation. Xbox isn’t making enough on the hardware and subscriptions are slowly growing, they are a money hungry division now after all that spending.

Makes me think the OEM rumor for the next xbox console might be true. It seems if they don’t care about hardware much then it might be better to allow OEMs burden the cost of hardware. Building a gaming PC is expensive, but if they can make something like rog ally in console form. Then that could be intriguing.

[CryOn]

@Sydthy

… yea MS should “waste money” on that stuff in Europe, has the intelligence of the internet truly gone into the gutter, how can so many not see why it would be such as waste of money. MS, during the 360 gen tried in Europe and came up short against a factually inferior over-priced console with no games worth a damn and a pointless media format (for the time). That was 2006, Sony has had a dominance in that region for nigh on 20 years at this point, how much money do you think MS would have to spend? Also how much do you really think will be gained from doing so? It’s rhetorical by the way, not a lot is the answer. That money is better spent bumping up their PC initiative (that is the biggest gaming market in the region by quite a margin) instead.

Microsoft had a much bigger market share in Europe during 360 because of their exclusive/marketing deals like FIFA, CoD and GTA.

So because Xbox came up short they should do nothing at all ?

As I said the ship has sailed. 2014-2018 were such bad years for Xbox.

And the PC store still sucks. For years we’ve heard that they invest into it and at this point we see nothing.

Yeah Xbox OS is probably coming soon. But that’s Xbox for you. It’s coming soon

[JD_URAMESHI (Jordan)]

There’s a weirdo obsession about exclusives over this crap and over a time over a time. That’s long gone bro. Get over it. I’m only going to come here and say this once. Xbox usually has been the first one to start something and putting old exclusives on another platform. Others are going to follow. If you don’t like what they’re doing, leave like, it’s always been said but with your wallet. But stop dooming and glooming over all this s*** it’s a three to about to be 4-year-old Game

[Sydle]

Playground is going to make a lot more money.