While I know Deathloop is going to be awesome and underappreciated like all of Arkane’s games, I have very little confidence for Ghostwire. Hope they finish that up and start rebounding with Evil Within 3 ASAP.
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This line of discussion is exactly WHY Zenimax sold to Microsoft.
Games are only getting more and more expensive to make, even smaller scale games.
Things like Ghostwire, Deathloop wouldn’t sell well regardless of who owned Zenimax, especially at $70 price tags.
We saw what Zenimax tried with Youngblood in order to try to boost sales with a GaaS approach and it backfired big time.
People say they want new exciting unconventional games, then they never by them because “Not worth full price, will wait for Black Friday”.
Deathloop and Ghostwire bombing only justifies Zenimax decision to sell to Microsoft.
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Yep exactly it’s getting harder for these budget AAA games and Xbox game pass is a great way for people who are unsure about it could try them if they like it they might buy it under a discount due to it being in gamepass
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Shit, last night I download Madden and Football Manager because why the hell not? It’s on GamePass.
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Or the xbox centric approach of “wait for game pass”
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Yep that’s how I played and beaten hellblade, cyber shadow, witcher 3 etc
Whoa whoa whoa whoa. That’s entirely different.
Fallout 76…
Another good example.
Remember the save Player 1 campaign that Bethesda launched?
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2017 right?
I think so.
MORE talent coming
in the most advanced studio of XGS with its own engine, FTech. 
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I hope that MS will expand a lot Bethesda Austin so they can start working on Fallout 5 as soon as possible (ideally this year or next year).
My wishlist would look like this:
- Fallout 5 by Bethesda Austin set in New York
- Fallout: Los Angeles (planned sequel of New Vegas) by Obsidian (main team) after Avowed releases in 2022-2023 (I think that Cain and Boyarsky will work on The Outer Worlds 2 even though they are the creators of Fallout)
- a remake of Fallout: New Vegas with the cut content+new content and built with the Creation engine + FO4’s gunplay
- bonus: a new isometric Fallout that would look similarly to Wasteland 3 (I don’t think that Obsidian or inXile will make another CRPG so that would have to be outsourced)
Ideally, MS would need a proper Fallout team but that would take too much time to form I guess. Anyway, I need more Fallout ASAP, don’t want to wait 2027 or 2028 
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Deathloop’s marketing is terrible. Just awful all around. All the people I’ve talked to about it still don’t understand how the mechanic the game resolved around works and I can’t blame them. They find it confusing.
It’s going to bomb hard, there is no arguing about that. Such a shame.
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I think we see a new Fallout game in 2025. Just too much sales potential in a New Vegas sequel.
We need a Obsidian Fallout sequel MORE than we need a new Outer Worlds.
Fuckin’ fight me.
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Sorry I think they’ll be a new Fallout in 2027
You’re right.
I’m with you in the battle to come.
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