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[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@peter42O

Rumors going around that Resident Evil 8 and/or Ratchet get delayed. If either or both happen, then that would dramatically increase the chances of Deathloop succeeding.

Who is saying that?

Any youtuber?

[peter42O]

@BlackheartVinyl

Source? (There is none, you just made that up)

Not making it up. Jason Schrierer(sp?) reported on it almost a year ago or so. It comes from him. this also applies to Ghostwire Tokyo. ZeniMax was considering cancelling them. It’s actually funny because Sony literally saved them which I do find hilarious.

@BlackheartVinyl

Also, source on how you know which of these unreleased games are “far better”? There is none, because you’re just being a dismissive, contrarian AGAIN. Live the gimmick.

Not being dismissive or contrarian at all. You can look forward to it, buy it, play it and love it. I love Mad Max but make no mistake, I know it’s no better than a 7/10 and that’s probably being generous. If anything, im just realistic. I’m expecting Outriders (which is day one for me) to be a mid-70 game if it’s lucky and to also bomb in sales even though it has a better chance at succeeding because it’s on like 7 different platforms and there’s nothing of any significance releasing until late April. I can be hyped for games and like anyone, including you, enjoy and love them but I can also be realistic.

By the way, are you actually buying Deathloop day one for PS5 since you own a PS5 now?

[peter42O]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

Who is saying that?

Any youtuber?

Dreamcast Guy tweeted in regards to RE 8…if it happens, then he’ll make a video. I’m not expecting it to get delayed but at the same time, I wouldn’t be shocked or surprised if it did.

Ratchet has been mentioned here and there only because and this is my opinion as well, it releases the day after FF7R for PS5 which makes no sense. FF7R is going to hurt it and considering Sony paid for FF7R and obviously owns Insomniac for Ratchet, it’s like Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot because they’re technically paying for both games to be exclusive at that time for PS5.

[ElPutoXD]

@Opatschi

I think it is strange that this game does not come for ps4

You can bet your ass FFXVI, Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop were cross-gen multiplatform games and Sony paid to have them exclusively on PS5.

[anon98342452]

Deathloop looks great, but I’m also doubting it’ll be a commercial hit. I think it’ll be a critically well-received game, but like Prey and Dishonored isn’t lighting up the sales charts. The release timing could prove to be unfortunate, but this year who knows what’s actually coming out. I don’t think launching on one platform will hurt it, especially since that platform is PlayStation.

Part of the narrative I’ve seen/heard around the game is that they keep showing it and people either don’t understand what it is, or don’t want to see any more of it. That’s a problem and I’m not sure how it can be fixed.

[anon81312630]

@peter42O

Deathloop is going to review well (my guess is around an 80) but I see it completely bombing in sales.

Ill be on gamepass in a year anyways so it don’t really matter if it bomb or not on Playstation and plus it has PC and Steam so i don’t think it gone to bomb.

[ChuckeRearmed]

@peter42O

… and is going up against Resident Evil VIII, Mass Effect Trilogy Remaster, BioMutant and then two weeks later, Final Fantasy VII Remake Integrated and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart. Hopefully, BlackheartVinyl is a secret millionaire because he’s probably going to have to buy a few million copies himself. lol. Deathloop was going to be cancelled before Sony decided to give ZeniMax some cash and while the premise is unique and original, no one is spending $60 on it when you have far better games releasing before and after it. And it’s a PS5 only title. I’m predicting less than 500K copies sold. Not in top 10 for May NPD and it will slowly fade away and when it hits Game Pass in 2022, everyone that plays it will say what they always say…thankfully, I waited for the game to hit Game Pass. lol.

Maybe it will do fine on Steam? Though Steam successes are relatively chaotic lol

[ChuckeRearmed]

@anon98342452

Deathloop looks great, but I’m also doubting it’ll be a commercial hit. I think it’ll be a critically well-received game, but like Prey and Dishonored isn’t lighting up the sales charts. The release timing could prove to be unfortunate, but this year who knows what’s actually coming out. I don’t think launching on one platform will hurt it, especially since that platform is PlayStation.

Part of the narrative I’ve seen/heard around the game is that they keep showing it and people either don’t understand what it is, or don’t want to see any more of it. That’s a problem and I’m not sure how it can be fixed.

Also they game had a confusing message regarding whether it was co-op or not. For Ghostwire at least there is a famous guy behind, but I for example still no idea how the game plays.

[Staffy]

So if you had to guess, when do you think we can realistically expect a new singleplayer Fallout game? BGS will be busy as hell for years to come, but I can’t really see MS sitting on such a huge and beloved franchise for too long.

Then the second question is, who can make it? Obsidian perhaps after Avowed? I miss a proper Fallout game, and with proper I mean solo, has actual VATS (God I love VATS) like Fallout 3 and 4.

[TheGriizlyBear (Dan)]

@peter42O

Not making it up. Jason Schrierer(sp?) reported on it almost a year ago or so. It comes from him.

Yeah man this absolutely sounds made up

[ChuckeRearmed]

@Staffy

So if you had to guess, when do you think we can realistically expect a new singleplayer Fallout game? BGS will be busy as hell for years to come, but I can’t really see MS sitting on such a huge and beloved franchise for too long.

Not until 23 at least. I think we will get Avowed first.

[NierlyCrazy (Alex)]

@Staffy

So if you had to guess, when do you think we can realistically expect a new singleplayer Fallout game? BGS will be busy as hell for years to come, but I can’t really see MS sitting on such a huge and beloved franchise for too long.

Then the second question is, who can make it? Obsidian perhaps after Avowed? I miss a proper Fallout game, and with proper I mean solo, has actual VATS (God I love VATS) like Fallout 3 and 4.

I could see them releasing remasters (or remakes?) of Fallout 1-NV to help bolster Game Pass and make some quick cash after paying $7.5 billion for it. Quite possibly could be down for the earlier Elder Scrolls titles too.

The reason I think this is even a remote possibility is because they could reintroduce these games on consoles with mods available. It also would also help to continue putting a spotlight on Xbox and Bethesda/Zenimax for a while without it being something huge.

[C17]

@peter42O

Dreamcast Guy tweeted in regards to RE 8…if it happens, then he’ll make a video. I’m not expecting it to get delayed but at the same time, I wouldn’t be shocked or surprised if it did.

Ratchet has been mentioned here and there only because and this is my opinion as well, it releases the day after FF7R for PS5 which makes no sense. FF7R is going to hurt it and considering Sony paid for FF7R and obviously owns Insomniac for Ratchet, it’s like Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot because they’re technically paying for both games to be exclusive at that time for PS5.

No, RE8 isn’t delayed. That was a typo from EDGE magazine. Don’t know about Ratchet

[LiamS]

@Staffy

So if you had to guess, when do you think we can realistically expect a new singleplayer Fallout game? BGS will be busy as hell for years to come, but I can’t really see MS sitting on such a huge and beloved franchise for too long.

Then the second question is, who can make it? Obsidian perhaps after Avowed? I miss a proper Fallout game, and with proper I mean solo, has actual VATS (God I love VATS) like Fallout 3 and 4.

I think we will be getting one sooner that people think (that is, around the same time that elder scrolls 6 releases) In the past few years zenimax has acquired a number of studios and added them to bethesda game studios, so they have multiple locations, for instance BGS Austin works on fallout 76.

imo what I think will happen is that BGS Austin makes the next mainline fallout, with supervision from BGS Maryland. I think that is why they expanded bethesda game studio to 3 locations, because they looked at the games they make and realised that they cant keep having 15 years between game installments (5 years per game, elder scrolls, fallout, starfield) because its just bad for the fan base. Who knows, maybe BGS Austin could partner with a team from Inxile or obsidian?

With 3 separate locations you can easily have a small team working on pre-production for each game at the same time, sure they might be working on pre-production for like 3 years before full production starts, but that would just allow the games to be more thought out and complete when they enter full production

If I was betting I think BGS will build up to releasing a big mainline game every 2-3 years. having an elder scrolls game every 6-7 years feels about right imo, same with fallout and the third slot which will either be Starfield 2 or a new IP

[Thebaconlife]

With tomorrow being 3/5 do you think we get an update on Bethesda?

[peter42O]

Just to clarify -

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=deathloop+almost+cancelled+by+ZeniMax

Scrolling down, there’s an article from a site I never heard of (motokurye24) that talks about Ghostwire Tokyo possibly being cancelled and it’s either this article or another article from a site I never heard of stating that Jason claimed two upcoming announced Bethesda games may have been possibly cancelled.

I can’t find Jason saying anything so either it doesn’t exist or the site was saying it on it’s own which is risky because I would think that opens them up to a lawsuit. Nevertheless, I read it as multiple games possibly being cancelled with Ghostwire Tokyo being the headline. You can call it conjecture or speculation on my part but im not the one who wrote articles about any of it a year or so ago.

ZeniMax to my knowledge has never worked with Sony in regards to even a marketing deal so when it was announced last June that Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo were both (not even one but both of them) were one year timed console exclusives and reading into it about Ghostwire Tokyo that makes me believe that these are the two games that were going to be cancelled and a payday by Sony saved them.

It was after last June’s State of Play that rumors spread that Sony was looking for timed exclusive games. The only rumor before last June’s State of Play was Final Fantasy XVI.

I’ll admit that im wrong for stating things as facts but at the same time, I do believe that it’s simply much more than a coincidence that two games that may have been on the chopping block end up in Sony’s State of Play despite ZeniMax never even having a marketing deal with them before.

Only reason I came across that article is because once Mikami took over Ghostwire Tokyo, I started my own research not for a cancellation but for any info I could find on the game because before it was revealed, I was very interested because it’s Mikami and Tango. And I loved The Evil Within games.

I apologize for any mis-information but at the same time, true or not, im simply posting what other websites posted. I just think there’s a lot more to it than people think because two games basically go “dark” after E3 2019 excluding the woman leaving Tango and Mikami taking over Ghostwire until a year later in which both of them appear on Sony’s State of Play and not even for a marketing deal but with them both being one year timed exclusives.

As for the site, I tried clicking the article and after several minutes, I can’t access the website so yeah, it’s probably all fake. Just seems all weird to me, that’s all.

[biglo25]

@Thebaconlife

With tomorrow being 3/5 do you think we get an update on Bethesda?

if EU approval is the final barrier, Microsoft would want to close within 7 days max then after that they can talk since they fully own them.

[Mort]

[ProgStopper]

@Mort

Is IT FrIDaY yET?

[n0tjack]

@FarSightXR-20

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m a big fan of Arkane’s game yet Deathloop does nothing to me. The game will probably be great but I also love Arkane games for their story, the universe and the lore and I have a hard time identifying these in Deathloop. I think I’m not a fan of the 70s funk/crazy style of the game (and Prey and its realistic style being my favorite Arkane game doesn’t help).

I understand why they tried to do something different instead of Dishonored 3 though (even if Dishonored 3 was what I wanted). Deathloop seems to be more fast-paced and crazy in its gameplay, maybe the goal was to attract more people.

Arkane games are have a unique dynamic where they make the best games in their genre, but it’s a genre a lot of people don’t care about (and this is coming from someone who loves the genre dearly). While everyone loves zipping and zooming in Spiderman, feeling like a superhero, and checking a few boxes off a map, not everyone loves the stress of a stealth game where decisions matter, puzzles are actually puzzles, enemies can actually kill you, and so on.

I definitely don’t like how people act like immersive sims are “games for adults” or anything like that because a lot of people just play games to chill and enjoy mindless fun, but it’s undeniable to say the added dimensions scares large groups of gamers away.