Yes I agree, suggesting Amazon could make all the EA sports titles exclusive to Luna is very dumb.
But it clearly is, they just don’t appeal to you so your trying to act like they are niche and not wanted.
If that was the case why do you think PlayStation specialise themselves around it? Coincidence that all their studios want to make the same style of games? No. They have specialists in strategy, marketing and data/business analysts telling them to do this.
If you look at their recent/upcoming games you have:
Ghost of Tsushima Directors Cut
Spider-Man Remastered
The Last of us Part 2
The Last of us Part 1 Remastered
Horizon Forbidden West
God of War Ragnarok
Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection
If you look at Xbox’s 2021/22 exclusives I can’t think of a single exclusive that falls within those third person action/adventure games so how is that not a hole?
The Gunk and The Medium are the closest but they are timed exclusives and The Medium is now on PS.
I have provided evidence that Ubisoft have had top selling games every year,
they always have a minimum of one in the top 20, sometimes top 10 (often alongside PS titles) but again you disregard it as ‘niche’ - how a top selling game can be niche is beyond me, especially when you stamp your feet for other genres such as JRPG’s but Persona would never sell as many copies.
I have demonstrated they bring in money with Valhalla bringing in over 1 billion in its own.
I have also demonstrated that Ubisoft offer variety with:
3rd person action adventures (AC, Immortals, Splinter Cell, Watch Dogs, Prince of Persia etc),
Shooters (FarCry 6 & Division)
Platformers (Rayman)
Family games (Rabbids & Child of Light)
Party games (Just Dance, Monopoly, Trivial Pursuit)
But xbox will still going to need to pay for the licences owners for having the games in gamepass no?
Thats a tricky situation atleast in my opinion, and at some point they are going to ask more for them just like it happened with fifa, still it will be a big win for xbox to have sports titles in gamepass because afterall, they have a longterm plan
But I guess they will take the same route as with forza
so you think it would still appear on game pass, that is what I have been refering too this whole time. Sub services not the console industry
telling them to starting pushing game as a service more? Like they are pushing for 10 by 2025 I believe it was because the block buster games aren’t making enough money
they also didn’t have a 3rd person shooter in that time, like they don’t need to pump them out every year. If FPS suddenly a whole because they won’t have one this or I believe next year, what about WRPG’s because I can’t think of any we are getting from MS this or last year
I literally never called it niche, I even checked to make sure I didn’t. All I said is it pretty much just fills that “hole” well
I find this ironic cos people were on my back because they thought I hated SEGA and now the same shit is happening with Ubisoft
these are either not caps or definitely not a secure fit though (I doubt a fifa fan is going to get hyped to play Riders Republic and the crew is a racing game so if we are counting them definitely not a hole) but…
fair with these though
I think it was fairly obvious I was refering to area’s MS was weak in but go off I guess
I miss when this thread wasn’t just a tête-à-tête being instigated by a user or two (judging from messages I’ve received, I’m not the only one). If it continues ad nauseam, I’m going to start silencing people.
This is the last warning: none of you know what’s going to happen and using your personal preferences without data to shut down other people’s perspectives, especially when those are backed by data to support their perspective, is beyond tired. You know who you are. Everyone should have an opportunity to discuss their hopes on acquisitions and their predictions without being line-itemed to death (often by false information).
It still will be there until the contracts expire and it remains to be seen if having sports games half year later brings a lot of people to GP or not. I believe Day 1 releases are the main driver - and for that they can make deals with leagues.
They don’t need to buy EA for that. See MLB. And I still think that sports will go F2P.
I could see KADOKAWA selling spikechun for the right price but fromsoft after elden ring, definitely not. After elden ring I thin KADOKAWA will put a lot of effort into expanding them. Hell after their next game I wouldn’t be shocked if they started publishing the new IPs themselves
Visual Novels would be perfect for Game Pass and I’d say it will also lead to less censorship of those types of games from other publishers too, which would be a plus.
Mlb is in a very different place finanically in terms of popularity then soccer, football and basketball. All those sports crush mlb in terms of popularity, merchandising, revenue, attendence, etc.
Mlb is gamepassing the game in hopes of doing what drive to survive on netflix did for f1. As it wasnt sonys idea to put it on gamepass. That was all the mlb.
I dont know about free to play but they should adopt a live service model with paid updates but they get the best of both worlds this way so why would they? Ultimate team and cosmetic money is billions a year alone plus the 70 a year for base game. they arent giving that up for f2p.
The only way they adopt a live service model is if they are bought imo. As otherwise shareholders get in the way and the fear would be they might be giving upnto much revenue and once you do that you cant exactly undo it.
So you would need a microsoft where the figures are more hidden behind azure and cloud. So no one cares.
True, but that’s all price in the end no? With a decent enough offer those leagues (and EA) might be interested in benefitting not only from having sales (for a time being), but also from Game Pass deal that can bring people who never played those games (or never bought them)
I know, that’s why I am saying that MS can negotiate the deal if it is necessary. We know (at least from rumors) that Sony was not really happy with the deal.
Considering how much revenue they get from MTX, stakeholders are more interested in getting more people in the game rather than selling more copies of the games. Games like Apex, COD, Fortnite generate the unholy amount of revenue despite being F2P and does not require new version of the game every year. Then you can add that trend towards ads in F2P games too. Another revenue line for F2P games.
It is inevitable that it will become F2P Ultimate Team: The Game sooner or later.
I can apply the same logic to EA acquisition and say that the leagues will tell Microsoft that they don’t want the games Day 1 in GP. What Microsoft is gonna do then?
EA acquisition does not solve GP and sports games Day 1 problem because it is all up to the those leagues and there are cheaper ways to achieve the same without bringing in thousands of employees and paying for the multiplatform development.
As much as we discuss the importance of gamepass, we all need to also recognize that Phil emphasized the importance of Xbox earning revenue in many different ways. Having sports games on all consoles generating huge revenue from micro transactions would be an appealing revenue stream. So even in the event they can’t reach an agreement on gamepass day 1, they add that important revenue stream and massive user base to help them reach 3 billion gamers.
The games are already Day 1 on EA’s own service though, so don’t know why we are bringing the leagues into this. The league would prevent the games from being console exclusive, but that’s about it
