Xbox Acquisition |OT6| If this is about competition, let us have competition

CDPR, IOI, Certain Affinity, Double 11, Behavoir Interactive, People Can Fly, Supergiant Games, Hello Games, JP Games, EA.

It’s time, let’s go

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I miss when this thread wasn’t just a tête-à-tête being instigated by a user or two (judging from messages I’ve received, I’m not the only one). If it continues ad nauseam, I’m going to start silencing people.

This is the last warning: none of you know what’s going to happen and using your personal preferences without data to shut down other people’s perspectives, especially when those are backed by data to support their perspective, is beyond tired. You know who you are. Everyone should have an opportunity to discuss their hopes on acquisitions and their predictions without being line-itemed to death (often by false information).

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I mean, at minimum. A less conservative approach would have all of those, plus Capcom, Sega, Take Two, Nintendo, and most importantly Remedy.

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Kadakowa is willing to play ball with IP?

Ohhh the possibilities!

Although I don’t see much use for someone like Xbox without getting Spike or FromSoft alongside it.

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I want Spike Chunsoft! It would be great if they get visual novel games!

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It still will be there until the contracts expire and it remains to be seen if having sports games half year later brings a lot of people to GP or not. I believe Day 1 releases are the main driver - and for that they can make deals with leagues.

They don’t need to buy EA for that. See MLB. And I still think that sports will go F2P.

I could see KADOKAWA selling spikechun for the right price but fromsoft after elden ring, definitely not. After elden ring I thin KADOKAWA will put a lot of effort into expanding them. Hell after their next game I wouldn’t be shocked if they started publishing the new IPs themselves

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Visual Novels would be perfect for Game Pass and I’d say it will also lead to less censorship of those types of games from other publishers too, which would be a plus.

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Mlb is in a very different place finanically in terms of popularity then soccer, football and basketball. All those sports crush mlb in terms of popularity, merchandising, revenue, attendence, etc.

Mlb is gamepassing the game in hopes of doing what drive to survive on netflix did for f1. As it wasnt sonys idea to put it on gamepass. That was all the mlb.

I dont know about free to play but they should adopt a live service model with paid updates but they get the best of both worlds this way so why would they? Ultimate team and cosmetic money is billions a year alone plus the 70 a year for base game. they arent giving that up for f2p.

The only way they adopt a live service model is if they are bought imo. As otherwise shareholders get in the way and the fear would be they might be giving upnto much revenue and once you do that you cant exactly undo it.

So you would need a microsoft where the figures are more hidden behind azure and cloud. So no one cares.

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True, but that’s all price in the end no? With a decent enough offer those leagues (and EA) might be interested in benefitting not only from having sales (for a time being), but also from Game Pass deal that can bring people who never played those games (or never bought them) :man_shrugging:

I know, that’s why I am saying that MS can negotiate the deal if it is necessary. We know (at least from rumors) that Sony was not really happy with the deal.

Considering how much revenue they get from MTX, stakeholders are more interested in getting more people in the game rather than selling more copies of the games. Games like Apex, COD, Fortnite generate the unholy amount of revenue despite being F2P and does not require new version of the game every year. Then you can add that trend towards ads in F2P games too. Another revenue line for F2P games.

It is inevitable that it will become F2P Ultimate Team: The Game sooner or later.

I can apply the same logic to EA acquisition and say that the leagues will tell Microsoft that they don’t want the games Day 1 in GP. What Microsoft is gonna do then?

EA acquisition does not solve GP and sports games Day 1 problem because it is all up to the those leagues and there are cheaper ways to achieve the same without bringing in thousands of employees and paying for the multiplatform development.

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As much as we discuss the importance of gamepass, we all need to also recognize that Phil emphasized the importance of Xbox earning revenue in many different ways. Having sports games on all consoles generating huge revenue from micro transactions would be an appealing revenue stream. So even in the event they can’t reach an agreement on gamepass day 1, they add that important revenue stream and massive user base to help them reach 3 billion gamers.

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The games are already Day 1 on EA’s own service though, so don’t know why we are bringing the leagues into this. The league would prevent the games from being console exclusive, but that’s about it

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That’s a really good point, if EA became first party then EA Play Pro would almost be guaranteed to be merged into GamePass (which already includes day 1 games).

I wonder though how that would effect pricing? Do you think they would merge EA Play into the $9.99 pass and EA Play Pro into the $14.99 Ultimate pass, or would they get rid of the $9.99 pass completely?

I think they’d just all be treated as first party games and go into regular Game Pass. Though I wouldn’t be super suprised to see a Game Pass price hike in the ne, t year or two.

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True, although I guess they would have to find a suitable perk to make Ultimate worthwhile (I think the only difference is EA is included in Ultimate?). Perhaps they include first party DLC in Ultimate instead?

I agree I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes up soon, the value is incredible.

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EA Play is included in PC Gamepass and GamePass Ultimate. It’s $60 a year if month-by-month or $30 for the year if done upfront.

PC GamePass [$10 a month] also includes EA Play for PC.

GamePass Ultimate [$15 a month] includes Xbox Gold and PC GamePass and EA Access and xCloud and misc perks. For now, Ultimate provides a lot of benefits that some console gamers may not be using such as PC titles or Cloud play. It’s also a cost savings over everything separately – $15 vs $30 breakdown of $5 Gold + $10 GamePass + $10 PC GamePass + $5 EA Play

There was talk about expanding Cloud functionality to allow gamers to play titles they own that are not on GamePass. It’s unknown when they will come around.

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I wonder how many more they’ve been lining up while the ABK deal has been under review :chief_think:

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