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[Hue]

Seeing the news that Sony has brought Haven (a brand new AAA studio) I wonder if we will see Xbox do similar with some of the other new studios popping up.

Specifically Humanoid, That’s No Moon and Absurd Ventures.

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Which new AAA studio should Xbox do a partnership with?

[image] [image] Over the last few years we have seen a number of industry veterans establish their own new AAA studio. Many of these come from well established studios such as Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Bungie, Ubisoft, Bioware, Blizzard, Rockstar, Treyarch etc. We have already seen PlayStation undertake exclusive deals with a number of these studios in order to help fund and publish their first AAA game, including: Firewalk Studios (Bungie, Sucker Punch & Infinity Ward) Deviation Games (…

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@Madumbrella

They can, but what gives you the security that they will do it? Or a new nier in the near future? Or kingdom hearts 4, again

Tell me when was the last time that any of the new ips from square made a big impact as chrono? Just like all this is just your opinion, I can easily say that all this new jrpg games from square are just generic, nobody talks about octopath like other titles, but thats just my opinion

You’re arguing about Octopath Traveller as if it was meant to reach AAA level of success - it wasn’t. It was a smaller game that had smaller success, as has titles like Bravely Default and Triangle Strategy - but they’ve been pretty consistently critically successful with these games. And the idea that Square Enix isn’t a huge force in JRPGs still is just being absurd, between Final Fantasy XIV being one of the biggest MMO’s in the world (and with the critical success modern day WoW could only dream of), FFVII Remake being a major success with a bunch of hype for XVI (and yes, both are JRPGs despite your claims to otherwise), the on-going success of the Dragon Quest Franchise, Kingdom Hearts, Nier Automata and Replicant being a major success (Nier Automata in fact being one of the best JRPGs of the past decade). That’s a LOT of critically and financially successful JRPGs in the past 5 years alone. I’m really not sure what else you think Square Enix has to prove here.

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@Madumbrella

They can, but what gives you the security that they will do it? Or a new nier in the near future? Or kingdom hearts 4, again

for kingdom hearts and nier, the same team. For chrono trigger maybe give it to the team who made octopath travellers. That seems like a good fit to me

@Madumbrella

Tell me when was the last time that any of the new ips from square made a big impact as chrono? Just like all this is just your opinion, I can easily say that all this new jrpg games from square are just generic, nobody talks about octopath like other titles, but thats just my opinion

Kingdom hearts and fair

[Madumbrella (Mad)]

@Cairnst

…fault and Triangle Strategy - but they’ve been pretty consistently critically successful with these games. And the idea that Square Enix isn’t a huge force in JRPGs still is just being absurd, between Final Fantasy XIV being one of the biggest MMO’s in the world (and with the critical success modern day WoW could only dream of), FFVII Remake being a major success with a bunch of hype for XVI (and yes, both are JRPGs despite your claims to otherwise), the on-going success of the Dragon Quest Franchise, Kingdom Hearts, Nier Automata and Replicant being a major success (Nier Automata in fact being one of the best JRPGs of the past decade). That’s a LOT of critically and financially successful JRPGs in the past 5 years alone. I’m really not sure what else you think Square Enix has to prove here.

I am using octopath traveller because the guy is talking about square launching a ton of jrpgs and much of them are indie sized

But if you want me to talk about the big ones, then it will be forspoken, valkyrie elysium and the last star ocean, tell me, those games made a big impact in japan when they where announced? Is forspoken going to make xbox big in japan?

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@WAHderfulGoldenStar

no but the fact they own the most iconic and important JRPGs by a long shot does, this is like saying MS shouldn’t of bought bethesda because the are not the same bethesda they once were ignoring the fact they own some of the biggest WRPG in gaming

That’s a bad-faith comparison and you know it; unlike Square-Enix, Bethesda’s RPGs have been increasing in popularity with every release. With the exception of FFXIV, Final Fantasy has been selling fewer copies than 20 years ago, despite releasing on more platforms.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

Make a thread to discuss the Sony acquisition people; Haven literally has no effect on Xbox, so the tangential argument doesn’t even apply here.

[Madumbrella (Mad)]

@WAHderfulGoldenStar

Kingdom hearts and fair

And this are just possibilities, and until they prove a change I will not change my opinion of their latest games being generic, but anyways I am tired of this discussion

If you want to believe that square is the best buy for xbox and that they have better ips than capcom or sega(even if they dont use most of them), ok thats just your opinion but stop trying to turn it into a fact

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@Knottian

That’s a bad-faith comparison and you know it; unlike Square-Enix, Bethesda’s RPGs have been increasing in popularity with every release. With the exception of FFXIV, Final Fantasy has been selling fewer copies than 20 years ago, despite releasing on more platforms.

I was refering more to quality but fair point, I will admit I didn’t consider that

@Madumbrella

And this are just possibilities, and until they prove a change I will not change my opinion of their latest games being generic, but anyways I am tired of this discussion

If you want to believe that square is the best buy for xbox and that they have better ips than capcom or sega(even if they dont use most of them), ok thats just your opinion but stop trying to turn it into a fact

I don’t think Square is the best buy overall, I think thats take two for multiple reasons, I think think in terms of breaking into Japan they are the best buy but even then I think capcom is better from a general sense as their IPs have world wide popularity and have more veriety and for SEGA…I think Square is a better buy but that just me

[mecaguendeu]

Shinobi602

This could be a good acquisition

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@mecaguendeu

This could be a good acquisition

I hope Microsoft scoops them up so they can get good funding, old bioware games are great

[Daniel]

@WAHderfulGoldenStar

I hope Microsoft scoops them up so they can get good funding, old bioware games are great

I’d rather they partner up and support them first instead of just buying them outright, then after buy em.

[TheBrightestSun]

@Daniel

I’d rather they partner up and support them first instead of just buying them outright, then after buy em.

Yeah. They should go after IO and CE.

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@TheBrightestSun

Yeah. They should go after IO and CE.

In terms of indivual studio’s…if I could choice 5 I would say IO, CE, Humaniod, neatherrealm and either avalanche or platinum should be their top targets personally

[TheBrightestSun]

@WAHderfulGoldenStar

In terms of indivual studio’s…if I could choice 5 I would say IO, CE, Humaniod, neatherrealm and either avalanche or platinum should be their top targets personally

Humanoid haven’t shown anything no?

[BadNews]

@WAHderfulGoldenStar

In terms of indivual studio’s…if I could choice 5 I would say IO, CE, Humaniod, neatherrealm and either avalanche or platinum should be their top targets personally

I feel Humanoid is a big risk because new studios even though with veteran lead doesn’t always mean success.

[TheBrightestSun]

If Microsoft cannot grab whole WB, they should 100% get Netherealm. There are not many fighting games studios out there.

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@TheBrightestSun

Humanoid haven’t shown anything no?

@BadNews

I feel Humanoid is a big risk because new studios even though with veteran lead doesn’t always mean success.

I am just scared of the idea of EA buying them tbh

[NierlyCrazy]

I will say this one thing about Haven. Sony/Herman Hulst’s comment on being impressed on Haven’s speed and efficiency harkens insanely similar to what they had said about Kojima Productions during Death Stranding’s development.

If Kojima is working on a game with Xbox, I doubt the studio will be acquired by PlayStation anytime soon, but down the road I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a bidding war over them (assuming their next game or two are solid hits).

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@Madumbrella

I am using octopath traveller because the guy is talking about square launching a ton of jrpgs and much of them are indie sized

But if you want me to talk about the big ones, then it will be forspoken, valkyrie elysium and the last star ocean, tell me, those games made a big impact in japan when they where announced? Is forspoken going to make xbox big in japan?

I’m not sure why you’re making the viability of Square Enix as a publisher so dependant on their ability to make new AAA IP’s that would appeal to the Japanese market, especially when no one else seems to really be debating this point to you. Square Enix is an inconsistent publisher overall but as far as their Japanese divisions go their past 5 years still has had a stellar line up of JRPGs, titles that have been successful in Japan and outside Japan. I mean Dragon Quest is the game series that they had to stop selling on weekdays because too many people skipped school/work to go get it, and it’s currently on a critical high with the great reception of Dragon Quest XI and side games like Dragon Quest Builders. Even if they weren’t a strong company in the Japanese market, JRPGs are a huge force OUTSIDE of Japan and it’s a demand that Microsoft simply isn’t meeting with a recent poll (I think it was part of that indie showcase microsoft did) of what people wanted from Microsoft showing people wanted more JRPGs by a large margin. I’m not arguing that Square Enix would even be the best possible Japanese publisher to buy here, or their their IP’s are the best possible options for Microsoft - but I’m fairly confidant in saying they’d be a strong acquisition and your arguments against them don’t really prove otherwise.

[WAHderfulGoldenStar]

@NierlyCrazy

I will say this one thing about Haven. Sony/Herman Hulst’s comment on being impressed on Haven’s speed and efficiency harkens insanely similar to what they had said about Kojima Productions during Death Stranding’s development.

If Kojima is working on a game with Xbox, I doubt the studio will be acquired by PlayStation anytime soon, but down the road I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a bidding war over them (assuming their next game or two are solid hits).

didn’t deaths standing flop?