Watch Dogs Legion Running on XSX (With Raytracing)

[LucasTaves]

@TavishHill

Also possible that it a single mode that is uncapped but has a floor around 30fps too.

Can the game detect its running on a vrr display? It would indeed make a single mode super easy to implement

[The_Xboxer (Adam)]

@Staffy

For comparison with PC

Naturally the reflections are more crisp and clear on PC, but for XSX that is real nice and this is right at launch, things can only get even better as we get further ahead.

Which PC specs?

[Zappy5]

Ah yes the new narrative has developed…this is just a current gen game with Ray tracing.

Hmmm…yet Spid…no I must resist…

[TavishHill]

@LucasTaves

Can the game detect its running on a vrr display? It would indeed make a single mode super easy to implement

The console can, so yeah.

[peter42O]

I have watched that trailer 3 times already as it’s gotten me more hyped to play Watch Dogs Legion than I had been. I did buy it and picked it up yesterday from GameStop. Can’t wait to play it on Xbox Series X with that glorious Ray Tracing in 4K with HDR on my 4K 55" CX OLED!!!

I really wish I could fast forward the next 10 days!!! LOL.

[TavishHill]

https://i.imgur.com/tiE4zmi.gif(image larger than 20480KB)

[peter42O]

Holy freaking hell…those two images with the character walking and the driving sequence all look amazing.

[Staffy]

@peter42O

Holy freaking hell…those two images with the character walking and the driving sequence all look amazing.

It’s nearing photorealism. Will WDL have HDR too?

[LucasTaves]

@Staffy

It’s nearing photorealism. Will WDL have HDR too?

That brings another question. Does the auto hdr feature works for native SX games without hdr too?

If so it basically would mean every single game will have hdr on SX which is a very nice proposition

[peter42O]

@Staffy

It’s nearing photorealism. Will WDL have HDR too?

I believe so. HDR10 is listed on the case and should have it in addition to Ray Tracing and 4K.

[Staffy]

@LucasTaves

That brings another question. Does the auto hdr feature works for native SX games without hdr too?

If so it basically would mean every single game will have hdr on SX which is a very nice proposition

That’s a really good question actually, had not thought of that at all yet. Because no way every single game is going to have HDR, just because it’s next gen. Especially the smaller studios I think. I hope it works like that. But I recall in one of the auto HDR videos that a certain game had auto HDR but the update was removed because it just didn’t look proper. So I’m not sure.

@peter42O

I believe so. HDR10 is listed on the case and should have it in addition to Ray Tracing and 4K.

If their HDR implementation is proper…it’s gonna look absolutely insane at night with the neon lights, rain, puddles, etc. Oh my.

[TavishHill]

@LucasTaves

That brings another question. Does the auto hdr feature works for native SX games without hdr too?

If so it basically would mean every single game will have hdr on SX which is a very nice proposition

I wondered about that here in another thread a while back. Might be interesting since ya could potentially save a little bit on I/O and RAM needs by not including that HDR data in the texture files.

[peter42O]

@Staffy

If their HDR implementation is proper…it’s gonna look absolutely insane at night with the neon lights, rain, puddles, etc. Oh my.

Agreed. WDL is looking like a visual showcase for Xbox Series X at launch.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@TavishHill

Also possible that it a single mode that is uncapped but has a floor around 30fps too.

didnt they say its a consistent 30? Sounds like alternate language for locked 30. But thats the thing confusing me, why would they mention VRR if the fps was locked anyway? Do you mean to say the consistent 30 is just optimistic and the game shall dip frames even below that in some points? Maybe that’s where the VRR is supposed to come in prevent screen tear when that happens. Still weird tho, the game looks absolutely phenomenal with RT on, but sad to not see any modes. Consoles gonna console for a while longer I guess. Maybe a 108060 with RT and 4k60 without for XSX and 1440p30 with RT, and 1080-1440p 60 without RT, but no 60fps option with RT as that’d take it sub 1080p into Yakuza LAD territory lol, makes you wonder how bad the optimization of that game is when it runs 1440/30 on XSS while WL:D, a far more complex world with RT at the same res and fps. Hope the trend is gonna be the Watch Dogs side rather than the Yakuza one.

[TavishHill]

@Ruthwik_Rao

… me, why would they mention VRR if the fps was locked anyway? Do you mean to say the consistent 30 is just optimistic and the game shall dip frames even below that in some points? Maybe that’s where the VRR is supposed to come in prevent screen tear when that happens. Still weird tho, the game looks absolutely phenomenal with RT on, but sad to not see any modes. Consoles gonna console for a while longer I guess. Maybe a 108060 with RT and 4k60 without for XSX and 1440p30 with RT, and no 60fps option with RT as that’d take it sub 1080p into Yakuza LAD territory lol, makes you wonder how bad the optimization of that game is when it runs 1440/30 on XSS while WL:D, a far more complex world with RT at the same res and fps. Hope the trend is gonna be the Watch Dogs side rather than the Yakuza one.

It might be uncapped or might also be a toggle switch. Or might be something that can be done automatically from the console.

[LucasTaves]

@Ruthwik_Rao

…R if the fps was locked anyway? Do you mean to say the consistent 30 is just optimistic and the game shall dip frames even below that in some points? Maybe that’s where the VRR is supposed to come in prevent screen tear when that happens. Still weird tho, the game looks absolutely phenomenal with RT on, but sad to not see any modes. Consoles gonna console for a while longer I guess. Maybe a 108060 with RT and 4k60 without for XSX and 1440p30 with RT, and 1080-1440p 60 without RT, but no 60fps option with RT as that’d take it sub 1080p into Yakuza LAD territory lol, makes you wonder how bad the optimization of that game is when it runs 1440/30 on XSS while WL:D, a far more complex world with RT at the same res and fps. Hope the trend is gonna be the Watch Dogs side rather than the Yakuza one.

Could it be that it’s internally above at 30fps at all times but constantly vsynced (and not capped to 30) that would ensure that on regular displays its locked at 30 and once VRR kicks in it will go to the actual framerates.

But I don’t know how that would work because most tvs only kick vrr above 40hz

[Ruthwik_Rao]

Petri Levälahti (Berduu)

Ummm wtf is this true or photoshop? this looks insane to me

[Staffy]

@Ruthwik_Rao

Ummm wtf is this true or photoshop? this looks insane to me

Wtf. That has to be real life, seriously I don’t see anything “game” on those photos.

Going by the comments it seems to be the game, Jesus. Amazing how detailed that building is. Gone are the days for having a big box and just a texture over it and done, this is so real.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Staffy

Wtf. That has to be real life, seriously I don’t see anything “game” on those photos.

haha if I had to be critical, its the characters. The materials and lighting is not as perfect on them like you’d expect cuz this is still a game engine and its still majority rasterization based. But remember, this is also because we as humans have basically evolved to recognize humans extremely well, even the slightest differences can be immediately caught. Also some of the models on closer inspection show their low polys even though the baked textures are very good and high res.

Outside that, this could literally pass off as some instagram stories posted by some bloke in London, it’s that good.

[Staffy]

@Ruthwik_Rao

haha if I had to be critical, its the characters. The materials and lighting is not as perfect on them like you’d expect, but remember, this is also because we as humans have basically evolved to recognize humans extremely well, even the slightest differences can be immediately caught. Also some of the models on closer inspection show their low polys even though the baked textures are very good and high res.

Outside that, this could literally pass off as some instagram stories posted by some bloke in London, it’s that good.

Yeah it’s amazing. Everything on that building is modeled, none of it is just a texture and that’s it. I love this.