Yeah, that’s what I’m the most scared about. Really scary scenario but Ukraine army will do what they have to do. They demonstrated great strength and precision, so they’ll get it done. For pore than a year of active conflict, the price is heavy though.
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Btw I watched this interview of Roman Trokhymets and it was really enlightening about what regular volunteer soldier of the AFU have to go through. If there’s only one interview about the war in Ukraine to watch, it’s that one.
The scale of this war is absolutely crazy to think about. We don’t even know 1% of what’s happening even with social medias and all.
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I follow this account on Mastodon that does daily/hourly updates on the cover of the war in Ukraine in English.
It’s a lot of information.
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As always, its the normal every day people who pay the price when governments and interest groups push their agendas.
This war is a result of geopolitical agendas. When the cold war ended, Russia was given assurances that NATO would not encroach any futher East. This was not kept and NATO began pushing futher towards Russia. Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia etc.
In 2004 there was a duly elected Government that wanted to have closer ties with Russia. The West through its intelligence organisations, fomented a coup in Ukraine to oust that Government and install a pro West one in its place. That happened.
In 2019 Zelenski travelled to Belgium to meet with the EU and NATO and expressed their desire for Ukraine to join both the EU and NATO. As a member of NATO ot would mean that NATO nuclear missiles could be based there and they wojld be pointed at Russia.
This became the final straw for Russia and they decided that if this was going to be the future, then they were going to take action to protect their country here and now.
Russias aim is to take over areas that are traditional Russian speaking areas such as Donbass and Crimea. A futher goal is to take over Odessa and take away the Ukraines access to the sea, meaning they cant have a Navy in opposition to them.
As such, Russia made the bad decision to invade Ukraine which has ended up with death, suffering and devastation. While politicians sit safely in their protected building, the average joe is being sent to die in a meat grinder.
Should we have predicted that pushing Russia like NATO did would end up where we are today? I would think so. When Cuba invited Russia to join militarily with then, and for Cuba to have Russian missiles on their land, pointed at the USA, what did the US do? They were going to go to war with Cuba and potentially Russia. It was a red line that the US was going to act on. Thankfully Russia backed down and removed the missiles, thus avoiding a potential WW3.
Holy shit.
I mean i can explain in lenghts why Eastern European nations go to NATO to protect themselves from their aggressive imperialistic neighbor. This goes back to the 50s and 60s with events like the Prague Spring. People in the Baltic states and Eastern Europe never forgot. Seems they made the right choice in the end.
NATO is now in Finland btw. Finland made this decision because their aggressive imperialistic neighbor is obviously a big security risk. And now Russia has an even longer border with NATO. I wonder what Putin will do. But crickets …
Btw. did you know how man nuclear weapons or weapons capable of such payloads NATO stationed in Eastern European countries? Zero. Now Russia on the other hand in Kaliningrad?
Oh.
Stop this vatnik bullshit.
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Lay off the Vatnik shit. I could also say that you are a useful stooge for Western Imperialism, it would be as meaningful as Vatnik.
If you are going to bring up what Russia was doing under communism, then why not bring up what Germany was doing under fascism, or what the Independent State of Croatia was doing in WW2 to the Serbs. Whether you want to admit it or not, shit changed with the fall of the Berlin wall and the death of the USSR, so lets talk about what happened then, and what has led us to where we are today. Nothing of what you said addressed any of the points I made, but rather took a left turn and ended up at strawman arguments.
After the Berlin wall fell, and the USSR was breaking up and turning to Perestroika, Germany, the West wanted a reunification of Germany. They were worried that Russia would not allow it, due to the fact that the last time Germany was unified they attacked Russia which led to the death of 24 Million Russians. To appease Russia Germany along with the USA and other NATO countries declared that “no matter what happens in the Warsaw Pact countries, there will be no expansion of NATO territory to the east, that is, closer to the borders of the Soviet Union.” This was promised numerous times, by numerous people, both publicly and directly.
This was agreed to by both NATO and Russia, and Germany was reunified.
Since then NATO has expanded into Poland, Hungry, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and then some. They did exactly what they promised and declared they would never do. Not only did the West do that, but they fermented a coup in the Ukraine to topple a pro Russian, duly elected Government, and replace it with a pro West one. The USA talks up about how Russia tried to meddle in the US elections by posting Twitter stories and hacking the DNC party emails, meanwhile they were actually toppling elected Governments. The hypocrisy is amazing.
Russia obviously took that as a river too far and invaded Ukraine to sure up their own percieved safety, action I think they were wrong to do. And if you think that the good old West would never do something like that if Russia was putting missiles in a third party countries border that was closer to the US mainland, well they nearly did, and had Russia not of removed their missiles from Cuba, then the US would absolutely of invaded Cuba.
Unless you ask yourself how we got here, you are only going to repeat the same results. The West arnt angels,. The US and other Western countries push their own agendas at other countries expense. Russia does the exact same thing. Both sides are playing geopolitical wars, and like I said, when they do its the innocent civilians who pay the price.
Nice straw man.
But i will entertain this thought. Because Germany changed.
Russia on the other hand has not and is still a risk to any of their democratic neighbors. The Vilnius Massacre was in 1991 after all. Please inform yourself better about the history of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states!
The rest is just a Vatnik soup of lies and whataboutism.
Fact is, and history proves it: If you are a neighbor of Russia and show the slightest democratic values, you are on the chopping block and need protection. NATO provides that protection. Thats why Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia are not invaded, but Ukraine is.
Show me the treaty where this was agreed.
On the other hand i can show you a treaty where Russia guaranteed Ukraine security, acceptance of their independence and borders and souvereignity for giving up their nuclear weapons.
Signed by the Russian Federation.
Now that is hypocrisy!
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What you just wrote isn’t an opinion, it’s just plain wrong.
Countries have to be accepted into NATO. It’s a long process and all the members have to accept the future member. It’s also an investment in military means specific to NATO. It’s not cheap. So countries have to be willing to do all these things.
These old soviet countries wanted to be protected against Russia because they know what the russians are capable of. And here we are.
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Can we not both sides an unwarranted full-scale war where verified crimes against humanity have been committed by Russia (in addition to everything else)? Those elements aren’t debatable… we’re not talking about US vs Russia, or some other geopolitical pivot point, we’re talking about a series of international crimes committed against an innocent party - Ukraine.
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Russian bots on XboxEra? jfc
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If my neighbor comes into my house and murders my wife, you can’t rationalize that by saying “Well, his other neighbors installed stronger locks and built a bigger fence to keep him from murdering them, so what was he supposed to do?”.
The idea that any country, let alone NATO as an entity, was ever going to attack Russia is not credible. It is a fantasy born out of sheer propaganda.
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Interesting developments, seems like tension between Wagner and the MOD are escalating. Who would have thought?
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672339766904274947
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Looks like it might be happening -
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672401399613628416?s=20
Oh it is happening for sure.
So for all future dictators who are reading this: learn from history. Hitler killed his rivals in the Night of the Long Knives, Saddam killed his rivals in the Comrade Massacre at the Baath party congress. And now we see what happens if you give your rivals lots of money and weapons. This is all so stupid.
Make no mistake. Prigozshin may even be worse than Putin.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672495911082024961
But at least they pay for their coffee.
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Flipping hell, I wake up and I see it is going to shit in Russia. I guess you reap what you sow.
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Yep, it’s slowly creeping in popular MP. I tried to report on a player with BAHNEP (= WAGNER) in his name in BF 2042 like a month ago but got a response that says that someone looked at my complaint but saw no problem, even though I pointed out that it was considered a terrorist organisation.
That’s disappointing that it turned out that way. I feel like sometimes the people making this type of decision don’t always understand it well enough.
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