I mean games sales and popularity would suggest that the public don’t predominantly want big story driven narrative games. Fortnite, Minecraft, FIFA, COD outsell those of titles.
Secondly the number of consoles Sony or MS sell relatively is completely irrelevant. The majority of people who buy a PS5 will do so to play the games I listed above on. That’s just an indisputable fact. Xbox have sold every single console they’ve produced thus far. So in reality it hasn’t impacted them at all. I think you are correlating popularity of a brand far too strongly with an individual thing. Sony would sell more consoles even if they had no games at launch or no exclusive games for two years. That’s as true as it ever was.
But the thing is nobody cares how many PS5 or Series X consoles are sold we aren’t shareholders in Sony or Microsoft. It’s completely irrelevant and hangs on huge number of factors beyond exclusive games. I want to play games I enjoy and frankly if billions of others do or don’t is a bit irrelevant to me personally. Why is everything you look at through a lens of one console manufacturer winning? The world doesn’t work like that.
I think there is a little misconception about Sony’s AAA third person cinematic action games or whatever. Part of the reason these games sell well and are hyped so much is because they are games that are on the Playstation. Now don’t get me wrong, they are good games but they are good games on the more popular platform. Obviously those who want to hype the platform is going to focus on their strengths.
There are some small undercurrents of Sony missing games similar to Ori and Forza Horizion or that they rely too much on third person cinematic games. While there is a seemingly larger message the Xbox is missing AAA third person games. If the libraries were swapped the big deal would be Xbox missing smaller more diverse games, while there would be a smaller message of PS missing larger cinematic games. The message would still be the same in regards to Sony vs MS and how they handle their game library.
On launch day? Oh fine with me for sure if that’s going to be it. Actually a dope idea about different agents. They could let the stories collide too and stuff.
Bingo. At the start of the last gen when Xbox had the better launch lineup nobody cared. It was all
how nice to indies Sony were and how powerful the PS4 was.
The narratives shift to suit the stronger brand. It’s always the way. Most people buy a PlayStation because they had one before. They don’t care what exclusives it has. These narratives form in the hardest of hardcore areas online. But anyone who thinks if you reversed the exclusive line up it would make a material difference is in some serious denial.
We’ve a game like SoT that 11M people played this year. That’s a hugely popular and successful game. Where is the talk about that? Or grounded or Ori…How can a game 11M people play be ‘niche’. I bet more people play SoT than will play most PS5 exclusives.
But the Xbox isn’t missing just 3rd person cinematic games. It is missing big AAA exclusives in general. If MS had released the XSX with a glorious looking halo infinite and , say, a new next gen looking banjo most people would be singing praises about it. The fact is that Sony’s games are technically excellent and have big budgets behind them and you can see the results on the screen.
I can’t even comment on the XSX’ future line up since we have seen absolutely nothing, in terms of gameplay.
Ok, he said one thing that could’ve been worded better and exaggerated more than he should’ve probably (though realistically there are going to be people who will react that way), but how the hell does that make the entire podcast embarrassing? It’s a podcast, they were just sharing their opinions. You really need to chill.
The competition showed a lot of rough stuff as well, and neither memed as hard as Craig. This says more about how everything about Xbox must be turned into concern than their inability to show impressive stuff.
Even more so because some of the stuff they showed like Hellblade 2 got instantly shut down as not real and it’s constantly ignored in the narrative despite they literally announcing the console with that game as a showcase of its capabilities.
What rough stuff ? Games like HZ2 and the new R&C don’t look rough to me at all. I also don’t count HB2 until I see something resembling gameplay and actually HB2 in the end did more harm than good because the next thing we got was…halo infinite.
It took Sony years to get away from the E32005 CGI-fest stigma and this is Sony with way more fans.
One of the most wonderful things about running the platform and communtiy you’re participating in, is that I can make arbitrary decisions like that you clearly need to take a break for a little while.
I’d also argue, that generally we tried to highlight the hilarious overreaction from ‘the Internet’ at large over stupid things and I’d argue that we’ve been proven quite correct.
Rough as in: barely improved from Ps4 (Horizon was even using some unaltered Ps4 assets)
Or GT7 which also looked like GT Sport with very strange RT reflections (specially in the gameplay part where they were updated at such a lower rate to the point it was impossible to tell if it was really RT reflections or not)
This is a 1:1 crop, not even zoomed in from a single compressed frame like Craig was. But it shows poor particle effects, super simple vegetation, bad IQ, low poly models, bad texturing…
If this was the graphical showcase for Xbox it would be ripped apart.
Horizon looks good, indeed, but HZD2 did not showed a generational leap, and both the trailer and the dfeed images had some rough looking parts as I showed.
They are likely placeholder, but still, that’s exactly my point. One xbox game has a bad showing and it’s ripped apart and a single frame in the video becomes a internet wide attempt at trashing the game. Games on other consoles have some equally rough stuff and people understand that it’s still a work in progress or completely ignore that bad to focus on the good.
So again, Craig was more a reflection of the internet blowing up against anything on xbox that it was about the game looking that terribly, specially considering the performance target and that it was already a rock solid 60fps that far from launch.
I don’t have GP 100% of the time - maybe 66% if honest. I currently have six 3 month codes I expect to last at least two years, and I just use them when I want to do so - when the games I want to play are there. There are certainly months that there is nothing for me, and I will go without. I have some games that I bought on a permanent basis that I can play at those times, and then when I DO use a card for three months, there are some games I actually want to download and play.
But then again, I rotate Hulu, and Netflix, and Disney Plus. I don’t have enough time in the day to watch all of them, so why pay for them? That is just stupid. Plus, by doing so there is actually stuff to watch when I come back to the service.
Learned this long ago, so I don’t pay for extraneous stuff. Haven’t paid for cable for more than a decade now, and use that money saved for a nice vacation (none this year) …
Horizon looks gorgeous, while Halo didn’t look anything like the early videos - the criticism is warranted on the “downgrade”. I’m hopeful to eventually play HFW on PS4, but it will definitely be a degraded experience compared to PS5.
