The discourse out there is pretty bad after Starfield

People are being really mean to Xbox all over the internet, Starfield + Activision acquisition is too much for some I guess lol I don’t have a Twitter account (internet’s slurry) and I don’t go on forums except for this one, so I’m mostly safe (sometimes there’s clickbaity “Xbox is trash” YouTube videos showing on my account and I do check ResetEra sometimes).

There’s gotta be a study about videogame tribalism somewhere, it should be a interesting subject to analyse lol not gonna lie I root for Xbox to win as well, it’s like watching football but I’m getting Game Pass games instead of just watching a game lmao

And I do think as well that RDR2 isn’t that great, it’s the best boring game ever

RDR2 down talking?

:wink:

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RDR2 is very boring or very realistic depending on how you enjoy life.

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Starfield being #1 in NPD and #2 in Europe sales wise is huge because all the fucking morons out there who keep claiming that Game Pass decreases sales can’t say shit and none of them can handle it. I always believed that Game Pass increase game sales because even if you’re a PlayStation fan but also own an Xbox, maybe you’ll try the game and if you like it enough, you’ll buy it on PlayStation which is still a sale based on someone trying out the game via Game Pass.

I played Outriders and The Ascent via Game Pass for a few hours each and still bought them outright for full price even though I obviously didn’t have to.

But whatever, when my prediction of Game Pass being 100m+ subscribers by the time the next generation Xbox console launches in November 2028, all these same people will sadly be on suicide watch if they aren’t already. SMH.

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For select third party games yes but it objectively doesn’t for first party games. Especially AAA.

Yeah, probably but at the same time, for a major massive game, I think people would prefer to just buy it. Ala Starfield.

Or like me, I bought everything but the game. Premium Upgrade, LE controller, LE Headset, Console Wrap…

They got my money anyway…

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I disagree. The vast majority probably played it via Gamepass on Xbox which isn’t an issue at all. That’s what it’s supposed to do.

People are more inclined to pay for the premium upgrade imo which is why Xbox will continue to utilize that money revenue for their big games.

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Hahaha. True. But with you it’s different because by not buying Starfield or any Game Pass game, you technically don’t increase your backlog. Hehehe.

Either way, Microsoft wins.

The upgrade idea is very smart on Microsoft’s part and it works.

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Exactly! I win haha.

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By now, everyone should just give up and continue to enjoy gaming. It’s abundantly clear Xbox won’t go away for a very long, long time. You don’t have to like the platform. Just move on and forget war this or that. Just have fun gaming.

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There’s PS fanboys that have hijacked some Starfield FB groups to downplay it being “only” the 7th best selling game this year but looking at the list of games it is behind of makes it even more impressive to me, these are some huge IPs with months of sales over Starfield.

And of course it’s on Game Pass and still beat other big launches from this year.

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Agreed , i think people need to handle constructive criticism better and not attack others just because it’s an Xbox first party game.

Anyways, this is one of the better places to talk about the game because there are other places that make the game seem like the worst game of the year. They’ll also attack people for praising the game. So hopefully as a community we can handle criticism without attacking others

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There’s criticism and then there’s out right trolling. There’s no need to attack anyone. But there’s also no need to troll either. It works both ways

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Yeah they lack any sense of critical thinking.

You look at what is above it and they are massive games, so even wit Game Pass, Starfield is a commerical success.

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It’s funny how they relentlessly try to paint Starfield as an unmitigated failure yet, while being one a subscription service, hardly beat Final Fantasy XVI a game they handle with kids gloves.

I really want to try FF XVI when it launches on PC so I don’t hate the game, but the complete lack self reflection in this is just irritating.

Now they are shifting into a “it’s a disaster because it didn’t move hardware sales” while Phil said it wouldn’t months ago. But when he said it he was a liar…

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Oh boy this is hilarious

I can understand reviews not docking points for all those visual glitches if they’re minor grievances, but at least mention them… A Microsoft game would get dragged over the coals for such bugs lol.

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Lol. I only put sales of a Game Pass game at 10-15% (Game Pass being the other 85%) so the fact the sales are in millions and 5-9x larger on game pass is not going to be good news to their ears.

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FF XVI is so…interesting, particularly from the perspective of sales and exclusivity. We’ve seen it clearly used as a pawn in console warring for the PlayStation side. It was clearly a swing for the fences, but took the series further from its RPG roots than ever before and didn’t bring in enough new fans. It also showed that although Yoshi-P is competent at overseeing a single player game, his skillset is clearly geared towards MMOs.

I liked the game, and there was some GREAT stuff in it (the boss fights, combat was pretty satisfying for the most part, Soken’s score is INCREDIBLE), but I didn’t love it, because it was surrounded by some very not great stuff. (Namely sidequests, and the second half of the storyline)

The release of the game isn’t where Square Enix SHOULD have started asking themselves questions. That time was clearly over the past few years when they were doing things like releasing a bunch of AA projects practically on top of each other, cannibalizing their own sales, among other missteps. But this is the game when Square Enix now NEEDS to start asking themselves questions. Final Fantasy XVII, whenever the hell that comes out, needs to be multiplat at launch, and if Square Enix wants to start getting back to its former prominence in Japan with a series that isn’t Dragon Quest, that probably needs to include Nintendo’s newest console.

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Yeah I am way passed tired of people attempting to paint bad faith takes as "constructive criticism " and calling out a bad faith take as an “attack”.

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