Yep, if you think about it, nor the 2018-19 acquisitions, nor Bethesda (ABK hasn’t even started back catalogue) have already impacted Xbox aside Starfield (Hifi is too small to impact alone, it’s an added value).
Now, I noticed after ABK deal conclusion the rumours about Xbox undoing have flourished, which is nonsense, so I think it’s all fud from the usual concerned circles. Concerned about the status quo, they don’t want it changing.
I don’t think so. I share Klob’s sentiment when he criticizes some of moves that disrupt the brand management side of Xbox. In that sentiment, consistency of platform release expectations is as important as release quality, that can be criticized, without it having to be about a general concern for the whole platform.
If you follow Klob you can understand he really likes a unified labeling, messaging and all the stuff related to branding, and that’s where he’s coming from in this.
I don’t think he took things too far merely voiced his opinion and kept it moving.
People are hard on Klob and I don’t always agree with him but his heart is in the right place and he’s never disingenous as many others tend to come off. He’s the kind of superfan that Greenie and co have been cultivating since late last gen.
Yep. We are still waiting for most of the results. We’ve only had a handful of small games, Redfall and Starfield exclusive from all of these acquisitions these past 5 years or so. It’s really just begun to take effect.
Add other things impacting this gen like COVID creating anomalies in the market, the chip shortage creating a weird launch of the gen, general economy taking a dive impacting the spending habits etc. I really don’t see how this gen so far is something you can base any sort of decision about the platforms future on.
I suspect this is very close to the truth.
You copy/pasted a message from another forum, what are we supposed to say to that?
The more i think on it the more sense it makes in my head from a business stand point and still didn’t stop consoles from existing. The big things are game pass and their desire to continue to grow.
Game pass doesn’t exist on other consoles so having their own makes sense. They had the slide in the FTC case which games make sense to bring to other consoles. GaaS makes sense to try to bring day and date to others if possible due to increase money. And smaller games on a times exclusive type mind set also makes sense. Because at the end of the day those saying week don’t be an xbox console forget gamepass. Doesn’t exist elsewhere so they will now pay 70 a pop to pay other exclusive plus the growing yearly release from Xbox.
The growth than makes it easier to grab other studios and publishers because if they set a standard of what will come to other platforms it will be easier to make those purchases without being stopped.
The tent pole games would also remain exclusive. With their growth they would still release just as much exclusives as say Sony and timed exclusives would be their own games so cheaper for them. This allows them to present gamepass as a fantastic deal and continue to grow where it’s stagnant.
Now will that run some people off sure but in the end their console will still continue to sell and make sense to continue. Gamepass will be a value that won’t be matched on other consoles but also won’t exist there either. Those other consoles will add to the money that will be used to keep gamepass the value it is and allow them to continue to grow.
Might upset some but makes great sense and doesn’t make me think they would leave the console business anytime before console disappear all together.
You’d agree the timing is very suspect? The moment MS controls more (and more valuable) IPs than Sony and it’s also projected to reach (or even surpass) their market share in the industry, Xbox is magically on the way out. The worst thing is that even supposedly Xbox personalities don’t grasp this basic concept, or they do but engagement rules above all.
Yeah the timing was always suspect , especially seeing as we are a week away from a Developer Direct and Sony has had some shitty news all late last year. The Insomniac leak , and the lack of road map to the point where fanboys are making up secret showcases. All of a sudden now , this rumor pops up.
Yeah, all these things Xbox has going for it now which has yet to bear fruit and suddenly they are going to abandon ship? I don’t buy it.
When you’re making your living off of this stuff, engagement will always rule the day regardless of how it’s presented or spun. It’s why I find watching videos and listening to podcasts about gaming to be so tedious. I get that it’s “news” and these shows are always starving for stuff to talk about, so it is what it is I guess.
He just gave his opinion on the matter. We may or may not agree with him, but I don’t think he went “too far” in saying what he thinks. He is not the only one to think this and it is a good thing that each opinion is heard. We could turn a blind eye and agree with everything Xbox does, but then how would we be any different from the PlayStation fans we criticize? Let the players express their opinion on the subject.
Yeah, I stopped listening rumours and podcasts for a couple of years, 99% of the things are literal nothing repeated 100 times. I only follow official news and credible sources, which are very very rare.
I’m the kind of old fan who buys Xbox because of legacy and price, PS is absurdly expensive here in EU, like last year everything is up 30/40%. It seems they are milking dry the existing and converting PS4-PS5 base, but I know many old fan like me abandoned that ship because of risings costs. And that explain the low margins of Sony from Insominac leak.
100%!
Let’s first see that. I’m hoping things will pick up in Europe significantly, but that will take time. But what Klobrille says is true, it’s about older, already released games and people jump to conclusions about how the future will look. But I do understand that too. It’s perfectly fine to wonder where Xbox will draw the line. Starfield for example, it’s exclusive until it isn’t in a few years? It’s possible. But day and date releases for first party on other platforms…i think that’s far into the future, if at all. Really hope things will start going well for Xbox, the console sales soon. It sure deserves it.
Not to mention we know how hard they worked, and still do, to bring Starfield down. I think this might just be another front opening up.
I’ve cut my podcasts down to Xboxera and occasionally Ironlord ( when I have the time to sit and listen for 4 to 6 hours lol) and Xbox Two. I mostly watch retro gaming Channels , Maximillion ,Thorgi, Gaming brit etc these days.
That is more concerning for me than immaterial rumours about imaginary ports, I’ve already seen the signs of campaigns against Hellblade and Avoved. Like “it’s the most important Xbox title since years” or “would Avoved surpass Skyrim?”. They are apparently genuine takes, but I see a malicious intent.
Oh it will be bad.
Grubb has said that unless he’s writing an article about, he’s just speculating.
He gave his opinion based on a rumor without adding in the context he just showed. So, to me, it felt like a bit much. Also, as silly as it is, his opinion holds sway in the community so his initial response was used as reinforcement for people who were all too happy to jump to conclusions about Xbox’s future strategy. When we get official announcements and hear from Xbox leadership afterwards, I will be more than happy to take other’s opinions at face value and give my own opinions on the subject. Until then, I’ll continue to shrug.
Like everything else, this is all a matter of perspective, so I doubt I’ll be changing your opinion about this.
Edit: Also, I’ve never said other’s couldn’t express their opinions. It might shock you that I’m also allowed to share mine.