A lie would be “permanently exclusive”, and yes I’m serious. Executive speak is extremely finely calibrated to always give ways around things. You cannot “trust” what any business executive says in a pre-recorded PR session.
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Yeah and that’s why in a previous comment I said communication is going to be a key point, this is the TVTVTV communication they need to avoid. If they are changing plans they need to announce it state why and how this will improve it for Xbox gamers.
I think GaaS everywhere, big exclusives (Starfield, Halo, Elder Scrolls) only on console/PC makes sense. I also think having everything exclusive to console/PC could also make sense in a way that boosts console sales.
But this goes to my previous old point that the perception of Xbox and their games might be too hard to overcome now and reached a point of no return but that’s more speculation on my part.
Minecraft isn’t a Zanimax studio game. Hi-Fi Rush is. Nobody is going to take that statement by Phil and interpret it to mean “delivering great exclusive games, but only sometimes, and sometimes only for a period of time.” xbox can do whatever they want, but if this rumor comes to fruition, specifically about Hi-Fi Rush going to Playstation, Xbox deserves all the criticism coming their way from their fanbase. Xbox legit has the worst communication of the major platforms, in part because they talk to the media the most, but they’re always putting their foot in the mouth.
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It’s not even that, he said delivering exclusive games, he didn’t say only delivery exclusive games. Again like it’s been said a million times Phil is very clever with his wording, you can say he is delivering exclusive games (Starfield, Redfall, ES6) but can also port games like Hifi Rush and still be right.
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It’s one of the main reasons execs make so much when they’re public facing, they know HOW to always leave wiggle room while sounding convincingly definitive.
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If “exclusive” is left open to mean “timed exclusive,” and if this happens, then Xbox has only themselves to blame when the fanbase gets upset because they choose to be intentionally vague on their communication and/or speak in double speak. And when they get constantly asked after every announcement when/if X, Y, or Z is going to get ported to another console, they’ll only have themselves to blame.
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they have brought “exclusives” as pointed out above, he didn’t say they wouldn’t bring non-exclusvies too. Again, it’s corpo speak and people need to realize that trillion dollar company lead execs are masters at it.
Okay, I just went through a thousand posts, and learned very little I didn’t already know.
I will say the OP was pretty poor. If you look at other topics’ OP’s, there’s usually a summary of the topic at hand, links to relevant material, and perhaps the OP’s poster with their own opinion.
Here, it’s a one liner and a meme. And we got a thousand posts out of it…
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FWIW I think it’s pretty unfortunate that Xbox didn’t get an attempt to communicate such a complicated message to their customers in their own way. That said, I can’t blame Nate because it’s obvious that many knew and they didn’t get out in front of it.
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Phil has to be very careful on wording because he can have his own “We got a console called 360,” “Don’t you have phone,” or “Get two jobs” moment.
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No. He doesn’t have to say anything. All we have is hearsay. If Xbox and Spencer stayed silent on this for the next twelve months he will have lost nothing.
Meanwhile we are like seagulls, flocking among a bag of fried chips at the seaside, and pretty soon something else will get our attention and we’ll have forgotten this.
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He should come out and say “Thanks Xbox fans, sorry but you’re not enough it seems, maybe if you’d spend more money we’d be able to keep everything exclusive but you’re not enough : /”
Just push that dagger right in there
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There would be no Xbox entirely since 2016 if it wasn’t for him, so everything you just said is kinda irrelevant, nobody is perfect but we wouldn’t even be talking about this stuff or this site would even exist if it wasn’t for Phil and I don’t want to say you can’t critique him, he could always be doing better of course but let’s be real here he has done a lot of good that outweigh any bad he has done so far even including if this thing is real.
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I didn’t start it, it was split off from the community thread, mine was the first post and was made op
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Another day, another string of armchair analysts freaking out about something that may or may not happen all while twisting words said by executives to fit this absurd notion. I’ve never seen such a bunch of people simultaneously entitled and willing to shoot themselves in their own metaphorical wallet since the moronic MAGA types started boycotting Budweiser. If this is the kind of thing that gives you concern, I would kill to have the life you have ffs.
Xbox isn’t going anywhere and there will continue to be a mix of mostly-exclusives and some that go/release multiplatform, get the fuck over it - I can’t wait to be proven right again when we see Sony… do exactly what they plan to (per those pesky internal documents some of you like to ignore as much as you like to ignore what Phil actually said) by releasing some of their titles across the console-warring minefields. I’m just appalled at the propensity a select few of you have for creating an absolute shitstorm over nothing. Also, this absurd notion that a $15/month subscription that gets you access to all of Xbox exclusives/first party, absolutely is a “reward” for being in the ecosystem and with how expensive games are and these days, I’d argue it’s a pretty entitled, toxic assessment to say that the financial element alone isn’t one.
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I’m talking about if the rumor becomes true and you know well the next interviewer will ask him about it.
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Who. Gives. A. Shit?
Seriously, they just spent billions putting in literal hardware in the cloud and Phil has repeatedly stated Xbox hardware is here to stay and GP isn’t coming to PS5/Switch. Nothing Tim Stuart says has any bearing when Phil, who runs the ship, says otherwise. Finally, a game or two coming to another platform anywhere from 1 to 5 years after the fact doesn’t contradict any of that, nor does it imply anything other than a continuation of the strategy they’ve been employing for years (Switch has had several Xbox 1P titles, and no amount of goalpost shifting changes that fact).
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The only joy I derive from videogames is knowing that someone else can’t play it! I must be validated!!
To show them I mean business, I’m going to switch to PlayStation and buy games for full price instead!
Facetiousness aside, I also like how everyone seems to ignore that PlayStation exclusives aren’t what sells PlayStations. But the outlets that get everyone riled up about individual titles maybe being released elsewhere are the same ones that tell them everyone bought a PS4 for Last of Us Part II.
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Well obviously, they are the market leader.
I’m obviously still trying to process all of this, and obviously, the game of broken telephone does not help in the slightest. I’m not going to mince words, I’m not a fan of this approach, especially if it’s more widespread than we thought.
With that said, I think as a community, like most fan communities, we have a tendency to think of the worst-case scenario. I’m not going to say it’s healthy, but I’ll be the first to say that it’s human.
So, and I think this is the root cause for people, the idea in theory is as follows:
- Xbox brings titles multiplatform
- Less people buy an Xbox
- Your own personal investment is devalued
- Ultimately, more titles go multiplatform
- Which leads to less buying an Xbox
- Which leads to more devaluing of your investment
- And then the third parties start to leave
- Which devalues your investment further
- And then, finally, because of this death spiral, Xbox leaves the console business or when next gen comes around, the uncertainty causes you to leave the ecosystem and you rip off the digital library bandaid early.
I think, for many, this is the general death cycle going through their heads. It’s certainly the one going through mine, and at times, it is even adversely affecting my mental health which is… fucking weird.
However, let me be the first to take you through a couple of the similar death cycles I’ve been through in other fandoms to show that the worst case scenario is rarely if ever the reality.
Back in high school and college, I was a semi-regular at Rocky Horror Picture Show screenings. So when an announcement came out that Fox was remaking the movie, the backlash was swift and fierce. The anger was immediate and the fears of this movie replacing the original were immediately widespread. There was even a concern, as silly as it is in retrospect, that Fox would pull distribution of the older film or otherwise charge significantly more for screenings of it, in an ill-fated attempt to force shadowcasts into playing the new one.
The idea was as follows:
- New Rocky Horror Movie is made
- New Rocky Horror movie is pushed hard by Fox
- Fox wants the new one to take over the old due to better revenue splits, etc. and forces theatres to play it.
- The old Rocky Horror is buried and hard to find.
- A new generation grows up on the new film, not appreciating the old one, and in turn, the old one starts to die off.
- Ultimately, finding the original Rocky Horror becomes a major challenge and all but the most dedicated give in to the newer, hipper version.
Here’s what actually happened:
- Fox remade Rocky Horror for TV
- It got generally bad reviews
- Some fans liked it, some tolerated, many didn’t.
- They all ultimately went back to watching the old one, which Fox happily supplied at the same rates as always.
- Now, people read this and either go “Oh yeah, there was a Rocky Horror remake?” or “They remade Rocky Horror?” because nobody even thinks of the new one.
Want another example? I am a long-time Fire Emblem elitist. I grew up on the games and am very particular about what I like and don’t like. I remember after Awakening, and upon the announce of Fates, there was considerable concern about the future of the series.
Here’s what we thought:
- FE Awakening made the game into a romance title with de-emphasized strategy and poor design incentivizing Casual Mode over Classic
- Fates will double down on these elements, and the games will go full dating sim.
- Future titles will drop Classic Mode entirely, and any semblance of the old games will be long gone.
- Ultimately we’ll be left with a Frankensteinian abomination that left the series fans in the dust.
Here’s what actually happened:
- FE Awakening introduced unpopular design choices.
- Fates Conquest ended up pleasantly surprising some of the hardcore fans but the other two drew ire.
- FE Mobile got away with permadeath entirely, adding to the concerns (even if such a mode doesn’t make sense with Gacha monetization)
- FE Echoes reinstates Classic (technically never left) and is received very well by old fans. Worried to be a bastardization of a classic, the title instead doubles down on the older style and introduces new QOL features like the Turnwheel that may have been shunned by old fans in the past but they largely came to enjoy.
- FE Three Houses releases to considerable praise, leading to a tenuous peace and bridging all gaps of the fandom.
- FE Engage reopens the rift, sells and reviews considerably worse. Classic Mode still stays in the game however, and the game’s design is the most accommodating for it in years.
So, was this a happy story everyone loved? No. Was it the worst case scenario dreamt up? God no. Hell, even in the worst I’ve seen, the Star Wars Sequels, which I felt did immense irreparable damage to the Star Wars community and fandom and outright hindered my enjoyment of the entire series, did not mean I didn’t still get considerable enjoyment out of Mando.
The worst-case is rarely the reality. Now, I think it’s normal and human of us to dwell on it. I’d be one heck of a hypocrite to say I haven’t been getting in… spirited debates both on and off here since these rumours hit. But standing back objectively, the worst rarely comes to pass. The onus is on Microsoft to communicate this though, and while I think commenting on leaks is a slippery slope, they may have to sooner rather than later.
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