[PLEASE READ STAFF POST] Microsoft says they have committed to Sony that they will keep Call of Duty and other titles on Playstation "beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love."

[Flash]

@Doncabesa

I simply do not understand the logic behind this line of thinking. They’re spending more than ever on the platform, how does that hurt you investing in it as a customer?

It seems the emotional investment is more important than financial investment . lol

[CrazyNomad (Maikon)]

@rtansey

This just leads to Microsoft being more aggressive with 3rd party day 1 game pass launches, no? And they get more $$ from the sales to reinvest in the platform. I don’t see this somehow still feeding Sony’s timed exclusivity. Removing COD may exacerbate it more than leaving it on tbh

I hope so.

But like others said, I still think IP already released on playstation like OW, Diablo, crash and cod will remain multiplat.

News IP made after the acquisitions is done will be pc/xbox exclusive.

[leburn98]

The most interesting part from the CNBC article to me was the following:

“Microsoft released the set of app store principles as a point-by-point rebuke of the policies from rivals like Google and Apple that have drawn scrutiny from legislators and regulators around the world.”

I think many have overlooked this from the original press release and subsequent quotes/statements. Microsoft is in the process of acquiring a massive mobile player in King. They would love nothing more than to include Candy Crush, and other mobile titles like Call of Duty mobile, Hearthstone, Diablo Immortal, etc. into Game Pass. Having Game Pass on IOS and Android, that also gives you perks for the titles mentioned would be huge.

Microsoft announcing their app store principles may put additional heat on Google and Apple, particularly with the scrutiny they have received from legislators and regulators. This benefits Microsoft in the long run, as it allows Game Pass, with mobile on their app stores.

So while COD is part of the original statement, I think this is the bigger play for Microsoft.

[TavishHill]

@CrazyNomad

Microsoft being the good guy here, I like this move but i wont like what sony will do.

Sony will not lose their biggest game so they will have enough money to moneyhat 3rd party exclusives.

And when spartacus launch, I can see sony doing subscription exclusive nonsense.

What a better marketing for your service than annoucing that GTA6 or RDR 3 or the next RE or next SE/capcom game is subscription exclusive and you can play day one paying as low as whatever spartacus will cost.

MS doesn’t have a choice here. Nor will other companies. New laws are gonna force everyone to comply. This is MS’s way to lobby the govt’s just out in the public sphere. Nearly all of the things they committed to here they had already committed to in support of EPIC’s suit against Apple.

@Shadowgasm

Regardless of what happens, everything is going to be ok.

Better than ok imho. Folks should re-frame this as:

1. all future ABK games going to GP day 1 + nearly the entire ABK back catalogue on GP asap
2. marketing rights for Xbox
3. no more DLC timed or marketing deals with Sony
4. bespoke tech integration to leverage XSX technology for better games
5. more spread out CoD releases to make the games better w/o crunching too hard
6. better workplace environment for devs
7. dev teams having ability to make the games they wanna make
8. new IP’s and old IP’s being utilize
9. no more trolling wrt ‘xbox got no gamez!’
10. even more exciting Xbox showcases throughout the year
11. probably exclusive DLC of some form or another to Xbox (GPU perks for sure)

The fact the games will be on PS5 as well should not be something to fret over. We eating good as is here on team Xbox no matter what thanks to this deal.

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

@Doncabesa

I simply do not understand the logic behind this line of thinking. They’re spending more than ever on the platform, how does that hurt you investing in it as a customer?

Well I don’t play CoD or any activision titles really, I understand its a big deal, but i’d rather have had other acquisitions of smaller entities with the same exclusivity as Zenimax (Capcom, Square Enix, Ubisoft etc) then Activision with a Laissez-faire attitude toward exclusivity.

[BRiT]

I’m reserving my comments until its more evident how this all plays out. So maybe sometime around 2024 or 2025.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@howlingmosquito

Well I don’t play CoD or any activision titles really, I understand its a big deal, but i’d rather have had other acquisitions of smaller entities with the same exclusivity as Zenimax (Capcom, Square Enix, Ubisoft etc) then Activision with a Laissez-faire attitude toward exclusivity.

The Microsoft board’s reaction to getting ABK was “who’s next?”. This doesn’t stop any other acquisitions from coming and the entire point is that Activision and Blizzard have a ton of IP and talent in their dev houses that can make boatloads of new stuff moving forward and not just be a CoD and WoW factory.

[Staffy]

Boy, Twitter is a shit show. Posts with pictures showing tons of exclusives on Sony side and only Starfield on Xbox side. Logic? Zero. I guess Avowed, Hellblade 2, Fable, PD etc don’t count, lol. Also “hopefully a good BGS game” they say.

Or stuff like Phil is a hypocrit and that for sure in due time Bethesda games will follow CoD.

That I doubt though.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@Staffy

Boy, Twitter is a shit show. Posts with pictures showing tons of exclusives on Sony side and only Starfield on Xbox side. Logic? Zero. I guess Avowed, Hellblade 2, Fable, PD etc don’t count, lol. Also “hopefully a good BGS game” they say.

Or stuff like Phil is a hypocrit and that for sure in due time Bethesda games will follow CoD.

That I doubt though.

That’s the price of inconsistent messagging and playing the nice guy card in a world of sharks.

[Failwood]

@TavishHill

…olks should re-frame this as:

all future ABK games going to GP day 1 + nearly the entire ABK back catalogue on GP asap marketing rights for Xbox no more DLC timed or marketing deals with Sony bespoke tech integration to leverage XSX technology for better games more spread out CoD releases to make the games better w/o crunching too hard better workplace environment for devs dev teams having ability to make the games they wanna make new IP’s and old IP’s being utilize no more trolling wrt ‘xbox got no gamez!’ even more exciting Xbox showcases throughout the year probably exclusive DLC of some form or another to Xbox (GPU perks for sure)

The fact the games will be on PS5 as well should not be something to fret over. We eating good as is here on team Xbox no matter what thanks to this deal.

Wasn’t going to comment on this thread anymore, but boy are you wrong about point 8 lol. If anything, this news has bolstered the “Xbox has no games” trolls on social media. It’s a shitstorm right now.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

That’s the price of inconsistent messagging and playing the nice guy card in a world of sharks.

What messaging is inconsistent? Seriously, they can’t legally declare their full intent on ABK. They made it clear the instant they owned Bethesda, they’ve made it clear the instant they owned everyone else. We’ll know what is what when they can legally say it. for now it’s all legalese to help with future acquisitions.

[RelloK]

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

Nibel

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@TavishHill

…olks should re-frame this as:

all future ABK games going to GP day 1 + nearly the entire ABK back catalogue on GP asap marketing rights for Xbox no more DLC timed or marketing deals with Sony bespoke tech integration to leverage XSX technology for better games more spread out CoD releases to make the games better w/o crunching too hard better workplace environment for devs dev teams having ability to make the games they wanna make new IP’s and old IP’s being utilize no more trolling wrt ‘xbox got no gamez!’ even more exciting Xbox showcases throughout the year probably exclusive DLC of some form or another to Xbox (GPU perks for sure)

The fact the games will be on PS5 as well should not be something to fret over. We eating good as is here on team Xbox no matter what thanks to this deal.

@Failwood

Wasn’t going to comment on this thread anymore, but boy are you wrong about point 8 lol. If anything, this news has bolstered the “Xbox has no games” trolls on social media. It’s a shitstorm right now.

What if I told you that if the stance were any different we’d still have the same fanboys ranting about monopolies and all that other nonsense (we still saw someone prominent in the industry use that word verbatim, despite reality not meeting the definition). Perhaps you should stop caring what bad-faithers and fanboys online think…

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@RelloK

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

No shit, thanks for posting this. Everyone has selective amnesia about the Bethesda situation apparently; as this indicates, there will be a mixture of exclusives and multiplatform releases.

[Shakez]

@RelloK

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

I’ll abide by @BRiT 's way of thinking, right now everything is a mess and “a person familiar to the company’s thinking” is laughable to me.

I’ll wait and see.

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@Shakez

I’ll abide by @BRiT 's way of thinking, right now everything is a mess and “a person familiar to the company’s thinking” is laughable to me.

I’ll wait and see.

Nothing is a mess. People are simply assuming things that we have no way of knowing.

[Xplainin]

You cannot compare this to Sony keeping Bungie multiplatform. Destiny is akin to Elder Scrolls Online and Warzone. They need as many players as they can get to stay alive. If Destiny was to be kept PS exclusive the game would be dead.

MS worries me sometimes. They seem one business decision away from ditching hardware altogether, and if they have a big enough first party devs and can get gamepass on PS i think they could ditch the xbox, or let it die a slow death.

I understand if they need to keep COD multiplatform to get the deal done, but that certainly doesnt excuse the rest of the AB games staying multiplat. At the least they should give Xbox timed exclusivity on COD, and keep the rest of the games exclusive.

Content is king. Always has been, always will be. Build it and they will come. MS now has the opportunity to turn the Xbox into the premier console.

The xbox may be seen as a door opener for their bigger plans, and once those doors have been opened, they dont need the opener anymore.

I guess at the end of the day its not worth putting to much energy into it, as what will be will be.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here

[Doncabesa (Jesse Norris)]

@Xplainin

…hing hardware altogether, and if they have a big enough first party devs and can get gamepass on PS i think they could ditch the xbox, or let it die a slow death. I understand if they need to keep COD multiplatform to get the deal done, but that certainly doesnt excuse the rest of the AB games staying multiplat. At the least they should give Xbox timed exclusivity on COD, and keep the rest of the games exclusive. Content is king. Always has been, always will be. Build it and they will come. MS now has the opportunity to turn the Xbox into the premier console. The xbox may be seen as a door opener for their bigger plans, and once those doors have been opened, they dont need the opener anymore. I guess at the end of the day its not worth putting to much energy into it, as what will be will be.

No platform holder is more tied to hardware than Xbox is now with their cloud streaming platform. They’ve already put millions of Series X blades into their servers, effectively tying themselves to ALWAYS having SoCs made for Xbox moving forward.

[Shadowgasm]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here