[PLEASE READ STAFF POST] Microsoft says they have committed to Sony that they will keep Call of Duty and other titles on Playstation "beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love."

[commanderbuck]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here

Kick it like a soccer ball

[CallMeCraig]

as a wise man said

Why you heff to be mad? (Original)

[Searsy82]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here

[TheBrightestSun]

@mr_sexy

Imo MS wants to be both a platform holder and a 3rd party publisher.

What Microsoft certainly want is not to pay 30% cut on other platforms. And of course put full Game Pass there. Their Open App Store support is about that and the whole letter was about that too.

[Deadwing88]

@Shpeshal_Nick

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here

Drop the take.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

All I’ll say is. I read that very differently to how others seem to have lol

Especially when you take regulatory eyes being on them into context

[AtticusFincher]

@RelloK

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

New IP can be exclusive without contradicting their statements in regard to “popular” ABK IP.

[andrew_schmidt (HaloGaming08)]

@Shpeshal_Nick

All I’ll say is. I read that very differently to how others seem to have lol

Especially when you take regulatory eyes being on them into context

Friend on Twitter showed that paragraph and it seems similar to what phil said

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

@Doncabesa

The Microsoft board’s reaction to getting ABK was “who’s next?”. This doesn’t stop any other acquisitions from coming

But will they be exclusive? Whos to know at this point. The thing is…Microsoft can just treat this as usual and give a “case by case” basis reasoning just like with Zenimax…no-one will even panic if PS5 gets Warzone 2. The FTC isn’t going to make the distinction between a F2P game vs. mainline so you can walk the line and get all you want without conceding much (an F2P game that siphons cash from your competitor)

I know I know it’s “good value for gamepass” but they could have got most of these games day 1 for a fraction of the cash and bought someone a little less massive with almost as much impact.

I’m just going to hope that this is all a repeat of the Zenimax situ and its all for show.

[kjemiker]

@Failwood

Wasn’t going to comment on this thread anymore, but boy are you wrong about point 8 lol. If anything, this news has bolstered the “Xbox has no games” trolls on social media. It’s a shitstorm right now.

Who cares about social media??? It’s just a bunch of losers and fanboys.

[Hindle]

@Shpeshal_Nick

All I’ll say is. I read that very differently to how others seem to have lol

Especially when you take regulatory eyes being on them into context

Bingo.

Someone above said mentioned a shark analogy, MS are more the wolf in sheeps clothing

[Staffy]

@Doncabesa

The Microsoft board’s reaction to getting ABK was “who’s next?”. This doesn’t stop any other acquisitions from coming and the entire point is that Activision and Blizzard have a ton of IP and talent in their dev houses that can make boatloads of new stuff moving forward and not just be a CoD and WoW factory.

Keep em coming! End of the day it’s all about Game Pass for them, and for us and all this goodness comes to it. Capcom let’s go, Take Two let’s go, Sega let’s go, SE let’s go, Asobo let’s go, IO let’s go…and so on.

@RelloK

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

Yeah that’s interesting too. If they wanted every single ABK game everywhere they would have said it and content would then mean DLC or whatsoever, but they said this.

And today they said stuff that absolutely doesn’t rule out new IP as exclusives.

[DARK-PARADISE]

@Shpeshal_Nick

All I’ll say is. I read that very differently to how others seem to have lol

Especially when you take regulatory eyes being on them into context

But, that would literally be illegal. They can’t get the deal approved based on conditions and then break those conditions when the deal closes… That’s gonna be multiple lawsuits waiting to happen.

[Failwood]

@Hindle

Bingo.

Someone above said mentioned a shark analogy, MS are more the wolf in sheeps clothing

Well since Nick won’t specify I can only share my interpretation of his interpretation of MS’s statement lol. With the some of the shared context being ‘not wanting to stir the hornets nest’ and watchful eyes of the FTC, I’m reading Nick statement as don’t expect any exclusives.

[BadNews]

@kjemiker

Who cares about social media??? It’s just a bunch of losers and fanboys.

Social media matters because many take what they see on Twitter is fact. Not everybody is in tuned with gaming like us but people do trust hot takes you see on Twitter . The key for Microsoft is once deal is completed hammer down and scream day one on gamepass and gamepass perks and extra content on Xbox . like they can make battle pass bonuses and other things if on gamepass

[Frost]

@DARK-PARADISE

But, that would literally be illegal. They can’t get the deal approved based on conditions and then break those conditions when the deal closes… That’s gonna be multiple lawsuits waiting to happen.

If you read the statement carefully they didn’t actually promise anything. It was done on purpose they could release and support Warzone 2 in 2023 on PlayStation including post launch support and it would fulfil the terms.

[TheBrightestSun]

@BRiT

I’m reserving my comments until its more evident how this all plays out. So maybe sometime around 2024 or 2025.

I imagine a lot of people lost some lifespan today

@RelloK

Forgot about this but it seems like there will for sure be exclusives, unless this changed since then. We will just have to wait and see on this I guess. No need to argue about it for a year.

“some” deja vu

@Shpeshal_Nick

Probably better I don’t kick a hornets nest here

What’s about that Nintendo deal, Nick?

@DARK-PARADISE

But, that would literally be illegal. They can’t get the deal approved based on conditions and then break those conditions when the deal closes… That’s gonna be multiple lawsuits waiting to happen.

The point is that the way the whole letter was framed that it was about keeping the games available and not released. And in general the whole message was about Open App Store and “open App Store”. As I mentioned before - there are too many games that will be released multiplatform until 2024-2025 at least. So even COD will become exclusive sooner or later but it will literally take years until that point. Though it’s been two years since Bethesda acquisition announcement. Time flies.

[Xplainin]

@Doncabesa

No platform holder is more tied to hardware than Xbox is now with their cloud streaming platform. They’ve already put millions of Series X blades into their servers, effectively tying themselves to ALWAYS having SoCs made for Xbox moving forward.

I dont know enough about the revenue and profit breakdowns of the MS gaming division, but if there was a stronger buisness model in the future for MS to become a huge third party publisher vs having the xbox and keeping exclusivity I dont see a reason why they wouldnt just do that. Maybe Im just a burnt Sega fan. Nobody was more tied to their own hardware than Sega, yet they made the buisness decision to ditch consoles. Yes, I know there is a very different financial situations between both companies, but the fact remains that hardware is hard work.

I see no reason why MS still wouldnt keep making the blades for their cloud gaming if they got rid of the console, as cloud gaming is the future and there is the potential for letting other companies use that infrastructure to run their own games on the cloud as well.

I believe the drive for MS to get GP on PS is there. If that happens, and I really see no reason for Sony to say no to that now, then there is no point in buying an Xbox. MS would know that, yet they still would go ahead with GP on PS. So if a company is willing to do something that they know would be the death of their console, well it tells me their console is expendable.

It also came out that MS were actually going to reduce their console commission cut for third party sales from 30 to 12%. Again, if they go through with this then they cut by about 2 thirds their revenue from Xbox. They were going to do this because they wanted to match the percentages from the windows store.

Again, if its just COD and everything else is exclusive then Im ok with that. And maybe im just a punch drunk Sega player.

[Shpeshal_Nick]

Well yeah.

It seemed to me to just be a very cleverly worded way of saying:

“We won’t pull anything and will honour current agreements”

Like…if this was what you’re all panicking over, they would have just said “All new Call of Duty titles going forward as well as other new and in development titles from Activision Blizzard will continue to remain multiplatform”.

This doesn’t read that way to me.

[Resist]

They will keep making Xbox consoles due to money from Gold and the Xbox store alone.

(No, the ms store isn’t comparable to the Xbox store and won’t replace it)