Oh absolutely, when I first got the first 4K HDR TV (NU7400) I was streaming utter garbage just because it was 4K HDR, like Altered Carbon, and bought Blu Rays like the new Jumanji and Avengers films for explosions and so on. Feels almost wasted on a court-room drama or something.
I just saw Samsung is finally doing OLED TV’s and it looks like they have a shot at the current leader LG. Everyone should keep an eye on this. Could be that we are looking at the new king of gaming tv’s
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The new samsung S95B is a QD-OLED their first. So the only worry is it’s their first gen version. Sony A95K is using the same Samsung QD-OLED display but with a better XR processor for colour accuracy.
LG OLED’s are the best for gaming. Sony OLED’s the best for movies and tv apps with google tv OS. Samsung is the new in OLED space, wait to see.
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It’s still missing some things though. No Dolby Vision for movies/shows and neither for gaming. Apparently still flicker with VRR too. Now so far DV for gaming hasn’t been all that and HDR10 has been better, this can change. For me a TV not having DV is not a deal breaker.
But the big difference obviously is going to be brightness and the Sammy will absolutely win that. I used to care so much for brightness that I went from a B6 OLED to a Samsung Q9FN and at first it was amazing, but I started getting too many issues with the TV.
In a bright room a TV like this would be perfect, this is were OLED just isn’t nearly as good, but for personal use I often use my C9 in my quite lit living room during the day and it’s really fine actually. I don’t know if more brightness can eventually make me go back switch to a Sammy again.
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Interesting, the VRR flicker would be a big problem for me personally since I mainly use my TV for gaming with VRR enabled. Since its basically a brighter OLED I think picture wise this could be the best there is out there. But yeah it will never support Dolby Vision since Samsung tries to hammer down HDR10+ as the defacto standard. I could live without DV as of right now. But the gaming experience has to be flawless
Apparently Sony uses these new sasmung displays as well for their new OLED TV’s. Definitely will keep an eye on them
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It’s always interesting to hear different points of view by folks. This guy isn’t all that excited, he’s a professional calibrator that I follow.
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I am waiting to see solid reviews from professional calibrators.
I see a lot of comparison YT videos out but I have fundamental issues with their videos so far. Some were running with consoles connected via an HDMI splitter connected to both to attempt to do side by side comparisons.
My major issues on why I can’t trust the videos:
- They did not list if they had the displays calibrated at all or how the sets were configured!
- They did not list how they have their console settings calibrated to both TVs at the same time!
The fact that you need to have the console settings calibrated individually for each display for the best picture makes using an HDMI Splitter a huge mistake. You will always have one display configured sub-optimally that way.
Based on what seems like rookie moves and mistakes, I can’t take any of their enthusiasm as reliable.
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I am concerned with the Pixel Shifting of the Samsung QD-OLED. Vincent talks about it at the 4:04 mark. You can see it happening at the 4:12 - 4:18 range, where it shifts entirely Up and To The Right. That would be so distracting to me to possibly be a non-starter.
I watched the Gaming Tech video just now and there are more cons…
He shows the features it has and HGIG box is not ticked. He says it kinda has it but it’s like Dynamic Tone Mapping, which just is not good. All the pros recommend to enable HGIG for gaming if your TV supports that. So that’s another not so great thing. He speculates that Samsung might add that, but for all we know they won’t at all.
I’m definitely looking forward to real comparisons by him once he has the TV, comparing it directly to the CX.
I also watched the LG OLED vs Samsung video and I don’t know why Forza Horizon 5 looks so dim and muted on his LG because on my C9 it looks way more vibrant and anything but dim.
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Very interesting video to listen to from that professional calibrator. I’ve only listened to ~35 minutes of it so far, but he’s hitting on all the points that I wondered about. It reminds me of the same old discussions with folks being tricked by Vivid Mode and how it draws the likes despite it not being accurate at all.
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Yep!
It takes a few minutes before he really goes into detail but once he does…he knows what he’s talking about. Very interesting what he says about Vincent Teoh as well, both are very good sources.
It wouldn’t surprise me if we in the near future hear these things being said more. Or not, of course I hope it’s the latter because I want tech to advance. 
back in my day we were just happy to have a TV that had channel 3
OLED unless you’re in a very bright room and mainly watch in the day
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I am thinking of maybe trying to find a professional calibrator for my C9. I have no idea what kind of money I should expect to have to shell out and which ones are really good, but I’m gonna do some research.
That guy Keep it Classy Tech is known for not being excited about something easily, but he sure is with this TV.
I see it all over the Internet, people calling it next gen tech for TVs, giving them that “wow” feeling of seeing OLED for the first time.
Gaming Tech is gonna get the TV and he will keep his CX as well, so he’ll be doing direct comparisons, nice.
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I’ll go watch these tomorrow, for now it’s movie time and then time to call it a day.
In that first video I posted the guys say that their set doesn’t have banding, DSE or anything like that. That could just be luck, or we’ve finally come to a stage where these issues are part of history which would be something to celebrate really.
Although I gotta say my C9 has very few issues, sure when I put on a full white background it isn’t 100% white everywhere on that white background, I do see a somewhat green tinge in it, but I’ve had that with truly every TV really. No vertical or horizontal banding though. I do have color banding but that seems to be caused by a game or console, not the TV.
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Calling Shenanigans on the Samsung…
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Damn man, you beat me to it 
I was going to post this as appreciation to Vincent and his ability to distinguish the contributions of Samsung Display from Samsung Electronics. The QD-OLED panel, from Samsung Display, is actually a revolutionary upgrade to existing OLED panels and could potentially be the bridge that makes the glacial MicroLED rollout palatable. Unfortunately, Samsung Electronics decided to continue their slight away from image accuracy in favor of flashy elements. I still need to see more gaming performance, but I hope Samsung starts being reminded why they became the most popular brand all those years ago. Regardless, after seeing enough game-changing Dolby Vision content (BD and otherwise), I won’t be getting a Samsung again until they support DV.
Sure, Sony offers a QD-OLED, but you couldn’t pay me to own another Sony TV after owning two separate models that didn’t end up getting a number of feature they advertised to (same with the Vizio OLED I still begrudgingly own). As an owner of two LG CXs and a C1, until Samsung fixes their video coloration issues, I only recommend LG’s OLEDs for the foreseeable future.
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Pretty much exactly how I feel given how my sister and parents were burned with Sony TV sets requiring expensive repairs just outside the warranty windows. I am highly doubtful I’ll ever own a Sony Display because of that combined with their lack of proper feature support if at all let alone in a timely manner.
I’m not sure of the prices for a 65" set, but the rumored pricing breakdown between the LG C2 vs Samsung QD-OLED vs Sony QD-OLED was X, X + $1000, and X + $2000. I just can’t see spending $2K more and ending up with a Sony which will not have the feature set nor future firmware upgrades as an LG. I’d rather put that $2K towards a future upgrade. I’d rather a C2 then C5 upgrade over 6 years than sticking with a first year Sony QD-OLED for that long.
Initial price checking shows $2500, $3000-$3200, and $4000-$4200, so around +$500, and +$1500 at a minimum. The LG should be around $2K later in the year. I’m not sure how quickly the other sets would price drop.
It’s a shame that Samsung Display’s exceptional work is tarnished by Samsung Electronics.
BTW: Last week the AVS Owners thread for the Samsung QD-OLED was a total mess. There were already posts for people to reject standards and use your feelings. It’s as if they were prepping folks for a proper technical review. I can’t imagine the carnage now after HDTVTest Vincent’s short video.
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