Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread (Part 1)

[TheBrightestSun]

@proelitedota

That’s the problem I found with some of the liberal agendas that I found as a liberal. Like championing your optics to the point where you have no choice but to do things that are counter-intuitive. As the more sensical party you can’t be as obstinate, myopic and tunnel-visioned as the Republicans. Give yourself an off-ramp once in a while.

Good thing that judicial branch in USA is working properly at the moment. Imagine protecting the interests of the foreign companies (Japan & China) just to push your agenda.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@EldenDarkwraith

Still better than not owning ABK. Think of all the $$$ they will still make by selling these games for $70 day 1 on Xbox and all other consoles

Maybe but I think it would only be an absolute last resort to get the deal done

[proelitedota (Andrew)]

@EldenDarkwraith

Honestly even if they aren’t allowed to put titles on GamePass for 10 years, I can still see MS going for it.

Think of all the $$$ they are still going to make from ABK titles…

Maybe they will agree to not putting games day 1 for 10 years, and ABK games will come a year later.

There is no way regulars would make a concession that’s clearly anti-choice like that.

[TheBrightestSun]

@proelitedota

There is no way regulars would make a concession that’s clearly anti-choice like that.

Unless you are FTC

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

@proelitedota

There is no way regulars would make a concession that’s clearly anti-choice like that.

Yep. Gamepass isnt on the table, because it isnt inherantly anti-competitive.

[AllianceOfficer]

Gamepass has one of the best arguments in this whole deal and one that would be nearly impossible to argue against in court.

Playstation Plus can not be foreclosed or even threatened because it is on a console that Gamepass is not on.

[peter42O]

@TheBrightestSun

No they can’t. What’s with that logic? Since when Xbox does not need exclusives anymore? What the hell?

I agree with you 100%. Why is it that Microsoft for some odd fucked up non-sensical reason always has to be the nice guy or cater to their competition? Fuck that shit. I purchased an Xbox Series X for their exclusives first and foremost. This was a decision made months before they acquired Bethesda. It’s amazing how it’s always Microsoft’s job to help everyone else get to where they should be while at the same time, holding themselves back. It’s fucking ridiculous.

[TheLegendaryGamer]

@peter42O

I agree with you 100%. Why is it that Microsoft for some odd fucked up non-sensical reason always has to be the nice guy or cater to their competition? Fuck that shit. I purchased an Xbox Series X for their exclusives first and foremost. This was a decision made months before they acquired Bethesda. It’s amazing how it’s always Microsoft’s job to help everyone else get to where they should be while at the same time, holding themselves back. It’s fucking ridiculous.

Sony is crying to the CMA & FTC and it seem to be working, Xbox has to play by another standard; even though Xbox is the one putting their 1st party games on more platforms than both Sony and Nintendo combine.

[peter42O]

@TheLegendaryGamer

Sony is crying to the CMA & FTC and it seem to be working, Xbox has to play by another standard; even though Xbox is the one putting their 1st party games on more platforms than both Sony and Nintendo combine.

True. I don’t care if COD is on PlayStation. What I do care about is seeing COD become a platform so the vast majority of those studios can be “free” again and not stuck working on COD every damn year.

If the 10 year contract for COD is just for COD to be on PlayStation and there’s no restrictions such as it being a yearly release for all 10 years then my hope should come true.

[TheLegendaryGamer]

@peter42O

True. I don’t care if COD is on PlayStation. What I do care about is seeing COD become a platform so the vast majority of those studios can be “free” again and not stuck working on COD every damn year.

If the 10 year contract for COD is just for COD to be on PlayStation and there’s no restrictions such as it being a yearly release for all 10 years then my hope should come true.

Yes me 2, COD can stay on Playstation and even come to Nintendo for all i care.

I want the Devs that are now only working on Yearly COD games to be free to make what they want.

[AllianceOfficer]

@TheLegendaryGamer

Sony is crying to the CMA & FTC and it seem to be working, Xbox has to play by another standard; even though Xbox is the one putting their 1st party games on more platforms than both Sony and Nintendo combine.

I would highly disagree with any crying by Sony working on the FTC. The FTC and Lina Khan were always going to be tough on Big Tech, and we’ve seen them follow that pattern since Lina Khan has taken over. From the second that the FTC was handed the case instead of the DOJ, it was going to be an involved inveatigation and potential fight purely because of Lina Khans’ Big Tech bias.

As far as Sony’s arguements being used by the FTC, we haven’t seen anything from the FTC, so it can’t be argued that they are regurgitating Sony.

[TheLegendaryGamer]

@AllianceOfficer

I would highly disagree with any crying by Sony working on the FTC. The FTC and Lina Khan were always going to be tough on Big Tech, and we’ve seen them follow that pattern since Lina Khan has taken over. From the second that the FTC was handed the case instead of the DOJ, it was going to be an involved inveatigation and potential fight purely because of Lina Khans’ Big Tech bias.

As far as Sony’s arguements being used by the FTC, we haven’t seen anything from the FTC, so it can’t be argued that they are regurgitating Sony.

Lina Khan is from the UK, a coincidence on her bias i think not.

Edit: She’s born in the UK she might not be living in the Uk now but who knows if she and the CMA are bias.

[EldenDarkwraith]

@proelitedota

There is no way regulars would make a concession that’s clearly anti-choice like that.

You’re assuming regulators are logical. It’s insane what CMA among others are saying, so please leave your logic at the door. Don’t be surprised if there are stupid concessions Microsoft has to abide by, all because of cryin Jim bloody ryan

[MJ_INC]

From what I’ve read the different regulatory agencies do have contact with each other about matters such as this acquisition. I wouldn’t be suprised if Microsoft along with Simpson, thacher and bartlett(the law firm handling the transaction for Microsoft) have had their teams in Washington, Brussels and London negotiating and they’ve come to an arrangement where the ten years satisfies all three regulators which would be huge news, though this is just 100% speculation

[Hue]

@TheLegendaryGamer

Lina Khan is from the UK, a coincidence on her bias i think not.

Edit: She’s born in the UK she might not be living in the Uk now but who knows if she and the CMA are bias.

Really? I know Hollywood often presents the British person as the bad guy but the majority of us aren’t like that.

It’s a bit unfair to judge the rest of the UK based on our government bodies, I assure you most of us brits think our Government is a complete joke!

[Bits-N-Pieces]

There is no bias either from the CMA or through UK born employees, lol.

All of these people and orgs are just doing their jobs and taking in all possibilities and eventualities, the deal is going to pass in all regions with no forced concessions that MS an Xbox weren’t already willing to offer, the length of the licencing agreement is imaterial - 10 years or 3 years, as Xbox always intended to keep releasing CoD on PlayStation.

Everytime there’s a new bit of news or development in one of the markets both side’s rush to declare victory or defeat. In reality this is playing out exactly how the different stakeholders expected, its just time consuming and boring. But thats legal and business affairs for you.

[Vivir]

Howling and cackling at the thought of people automatically assuming Brits come out of the womb with an anti American/MS disposition.

[TheBrightestSun]

Well so far the board looks like this

• EU does not care about competition but only the ability to play COD on “their” Playstation
• CMA has no idea that Nintendo exists
• FTC does not care about anything besides pushing the agenda

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

The most amazing thing so far is that none of the regulatory bodies have given there definitive statements yet on this matter

Its all what Sony said and what Microsoft said so far

Some bodies have shown there favourable intrest in one party so far but that’s it

[BadNews]

As long as I get past, present and future CODs on gamepass then I don’t care what COD deal they make with playstation, steam, Nintendo, etc.