Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread (Part 1)

Why not? Fortnite is more aligned to the social platform aspect of gaming than CoD on all fronts. Social hubs, more inclusive and family friendly, community creation, real-world recognizable brands, events, and relevant IP cross-promotions.

I’ll believe it when I see it lol.

Even if we take Phil at his word, you could still ask questions such as: Does PlayStation refer to the brand as a whole (hardware + services), or does it refer to the hardware itself? Those are two very different things, especially when MS is banking on a future where subscription services such as Game Pass will be the way the majority of the gaming market will consume content.

The fact that the Brazilian review has brought up similar questions with " In your company’s view, subscription game services (such as Xbox Game Pass ) should only be understood as part of a broader market for digital game distribution, or they could constitute a more restricted/specific market from a competitive perspective" suggests that Microsoft could very well be thinking this way.

I truly believe Microsoft does not care if COD remains multiplatform, as long as Game Pass remains the exclusive home among subscription services.

I’d argue differently. Xbox would still outsell Playstation this gen whether CoD is exclusive or not because gamepass and CoD+ BGS momentem will raise up everything else they do. Once it hits 50 million even Microsofts B list stuff like Gears and Doom will outsell Sonys biggest games.

But Microsoft shouldn’t accept that and neither should Xbox fans. Phil really doesnt want $350M of money (plus MTX) from a game they funded (which Xbox gamers funded) going into Sonys wallet where they will put it towards timed deals to devalue Xbox.

Better for him straight up pull all support and tell the world you want Call of Duty, you need a Microsoft Xbox or a Microsoft PC or an Xpuck or the Gamepass App. They did it the last 18 times for the last 18 studios. Playstation would be that much poorer and we’d probably get FFVIIR.

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Why do folks always ignore the fact COD going exclusive would create an opening for a replacement and ultimately increase risk for the IP?

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Risk of what? Microsoft made TES, Fallout, Doom and other games exclusive without thinking of the risks of the competitors. Granted there are many more FPS games out there but any new FPS has to compete with Destiny, Apex, Fortnite, PUBG, COD F2P…

There isn’t really a risk that a new game comes and fills the void left behind by the absence of TES because TES is a single player game that comes around once every 5+ years. You aren’t taking away a game people are used to playing with their friends and can no longer play with their friends.

An exclusive COD means that people will be much more likely to at least consider the cross platform competitors so they can continue to play with their friends.

You’re effectively risking the stranglehold that the IP has on the industry in order to push console sales. They could risk nothing by keeping it multiplatform and strengthen their subscription service though.

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I haven’t played any Bethesda game yet after the Bethesda acquisition

Only played Doom and it was already on Gamepass before final acquisition

Yup… Fortnite could be a better free to play

But CoD is in it’s own league when it comes to being the biggest IP

Edit: Also this take from a console space market leader does not look good at all

now I am sure that Sony won’t be able to provide any kind of Gamepass like service or make make games other then what they already are good at.

Funny thing about the whole exclusivity argument is, we might only find out at the start of next gen. If the rumors that COD is moving to a two year cycle and Sony’s marketing deal going to 2024, that would mean the 2026 title would be the first to possibly be exclusive which would match up with the seven year console cycle

Edit: just realised that would be a year before the next gen. My bad

From who? If its a third party why wouldn’t it be on Xbox? I’d say the odds of a CoD killer

  1. Showing up
  2. Being PS5 only
  3. Being meaningfully effective

are practically non existent, let alone all occurring in the time it takes for MS to close this sale and enforce exclusivity (2025 or 2026). EA has been trying for years.

If it’s from Sony themselves…well makes sense for CoD to be Xbox only in that case.

Legit question!

Can someone even complain about monopoly in a market where it’s not even part of?

How can Sony complain about Gamepass when they themselves Do not participate in the same Gamepass type business?

They do participate and have the leading game subscription service with Playstation Plus.

Then how can 47m sub be less in market share vs a 25m sub?

Maybe Sony simply bending the argument in whatever way they want without setting any base level metrics to decide where they actually compete.

Sony is so misleading company… Never liked them for this very reason :expressionless:

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Yeah, always felt like dishonest positioning

PS plus started in 2010 for less money than Gamepass and appropriately less utility

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From the other era but I think the member is present on Xbox Era as well

Is it good reference or should I just ignore it?

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I am not sure if this user is on XboxEra, but he is a good reference to follow to keep yourself informed and updated on this merger.

You’re exactly correct, they are being very misleading. They probably took all the numbers and threw out whatever they needed to in order to say xbox greater than 70% lol.

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I think you’re too focused on consoles. A competitor being on Xbox as well is STILL bad for the COD IP.

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Don’t know those dates, but the fact that regulators are late to approve makes me think it’s accurate.