Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread (Part 1)

This deal is pretty much done… Sony were the only ones complaining. Also is bloomberg or forbes whoever made that article about the marketing thinking the deal will fail going to mark an article on the uptick in price.

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ugh is that trying to say Game Pass is only grown quickly because of the acquisitions?? I never signed up for Game Pass because of that, I signed up because it was and still is the best deal in gaming because of the vast array of titles from first and third party… I didn’t sign up because Microsoft bought Double Fine for example or even Bethesda, but those might have kept me subscribed.

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Sony when competition

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As I’ve said before, even just having ABK games all on Game Pass day 1 is gonna be huge beyond what ppl even here realize imho. Sony clearly is freaking out even just at that scenario. And that is ignoring the marketing, early betas, GPU perks and any exclusive games/DLC that comes from ABK broadly.

With all those wildly high value revenue streams flowing into Xbox in a year or two, it will be interesting to see how they spread the cash around their internal teams generally speaking.

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There was something satisfying in seeing Sony squirming over COD. Especially after all those Sony’s deals that decimated the whole genres on Xbox (like SF5 or FF) and other games (we can only suspect that Sony is involved there though). Not to mention them owning marketing rights on most of the big games including COD (with going as far as getting exclusive mode) :joy:

But Sony’s attempt to define COD as its own market (in a sense) reminds me of FTC’s attempt to sue Meta deal by claiming that VR fitness is its own market :thinking:

Also it is funny that Sony claims that nobody can make COD but then Fortnite, Apex appeared out of thin air :joy:

Sega is smiling at me, Sony, can you say the same? * Peter Moore entered the chat *

P.S. we need to send that to Lord King from ILP. That would be hilarious :fire:

Game Pass is the service in a gaming cateogory of its own aka best deal in gaming with franchises that nobody can replace and the content that has no rivals :fire: :rocket:

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If Xbox was the same as last gen, not only competition wouldn’t be worrisome for Sony, but the recent earning report would have been a lot better. The profit and retail would have been far more greater if Xbox was like a second fiddle. I know someone here said PS is getting less popular. I don’t agree, but I would say they’re sharing their thunder with Xbox, and they don’t like it.

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They’re not. Wrt the language about Zenimax, it explicitly is about new stuff, not stuff existing already on those storefronts as is.

That was after the deal closed, before the deal closed he said they wouldn’t take games away. The day the deal closed, he said there would be exclusives and the cold reality is they went scorched earth and pulled all PS5 support, despite earlier claiming they never would!

Well they said Starfield wasn’t cancelled for PS5, then cancelled it for PS5 the day the deal closed. Thats a lie.

AB software, not Call of Duty. Literally identical wording to their stance on Zenimax.

It wasn’t relating to PSX, he said it was like Minecraft in that they would bring it to more people then ever. Literally identical wording to their stance on Zenimax.

They are, literally identical at every level. I literally dunno what could convince someone insisting it’s still up in the air.

It’s literally identical at every level. Even down to their FTC submissions.

Well you clearly stated all AB games were coming to PS5 and now Microsoft has said thats not correct, most of them won’t be coming to PS5 at all, which is directly contrary to your claim they will.

It’s actually accurate and incredibly close on the microscopic level.

Literally word for word their take on Zenimax before unapologetically taking all of that content away.

I literally dunno what could convince someone insisting it’s still up in the air.

Thankfully their submission to the FTC is beyond clear now. Xbox is campaigning to make CoD exclusive. I literally dunno what could convince someone insisting it’s still up in the air.

Indeed, Sony is literally admitting if CoD goes Xbox exclusive Microsoft will defeat them with such finality they may as well not compete. Which is probably the reason Microsoft is pushing for exclusivity with the FTC! It’s the Atom bomb to end the war.

I don’t think they are concerned as much competing with Sony. The atom bomb was also a deterrent. Microsoft wants to deter Amazon, Google, Apple and Facebook from pursuing this market.

With all due respect to Destiny, it’s not even close to touching COD lol.

COD>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fortnite>>>>>>Warzone/Apex>>>>>>>>Destiny>>>Halo>BF

Sony wouldn’t be quaking their in the boots rn if MS bought Destiny instead of COD.

I feel like we need a separate thread for CoD exclusivity at this point.

If you are going to keep going on about CoD exclusivity almost 7 months after the deal by comparing it to Zenimax, can you atleast provide quotes that reference Bethesda titles not coming to PS before the deal closed?

Referencing Kotaku and IGN articles which don’t actually state this is meaningless. Specifically find something like the following for Starfield:

“I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation”

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It’s clearly a COD competitor with 40 million monthly active users. Their argument is that no game can even compete. Well that game they just bought does have a sizeable slice of the market.

Despite what Sony says about COD being its own genre, the games you have listed there alone show that COD has less than 30% share of that market, so its not even a monopoly amongst shooters.

It’s not a monopoly in the shooting genre but Destiny is not even close to being a rival lol. It’s that simple.

Fortnite is bigger than CoD.

Nah, not as an individual IP.

COD is the only IP in that list that can sell a game every single year and sell 15-30M copies with each game.

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Not really. The FTC submission is the final word on the matter. Microsoft has an 80 page document explaining how CoD going exclusive is not the end of the world and Sony is arguing that yes it would, literally be the end of the world. It’s their intentions laid bare. They want it exclusive. If they didn’t they would have said as much and they’d knock weeks and months of the deals closure date. Instead, they’ve taken the long way round.

That statement is the equivalent of this statement

They’re either both pledging future support or both only referencing old games already released. Of course now we know with hindsight that it only referred to old games with Zenimax, but that wasn’t the case before the deal closed…we literally had topics claiming there was no-way BGS games would go exclusive. After all, Todd said it would be hard to imagine!

Do you think Sony’s complaints may affect a potential EA (or other) acquisition after ABK? What a shitty attitude! I love their games, but I hate what Playstation has become. What nerve ! Microsoft should stop playing the good guys with them, it’s a waste of time with this type of company.

Fortnite consistently makes $5B or more a year. The nearest figure I found for CoD was $3B the year they launched CoD mobile, Warzone, and Cold War coming from MW.

Yes but will it last over a 20 year span like COD has with no end in sight ?

COD is an anomaly in that.

Considering that everybody aside Sony is happy and Sony has the bigger market share, Microsoft’s move is the example of the healthy competition. The thing is that Sony’s positiion is shaky as they are literally the ones who are engaging in anti-competitive practices.

Them pointing at COD being this vital is literally grasping at straws because Nintendo be like “what is COD?” :joy:

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Sony literally tried to kill off Xbox last gen, granted most of the damage was done by MS themselves but them spouting about anti competitiveness after what they did last gen is hilarious.

MS buying Activision is them competing.

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