Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard Discussion Thread |OT2| The NeverEnding Acquisition

[Swanlee]

@Sparda3g

Is anyone going to tell the CMA that Series X is better hardware so of course it may run or look better. If it didnt that would actually be more of an issue

[binarymelon]

@Anecronomicon

Yeah. I think (candidly) Sony might have deliberately released Last of Us Remake on PC with the goal of ensuring only people with insanely expensive machines could run it properly & everyone else might default to thinking “oh well, I’ll buy a PS5 instead”. Call me paranoid but there’s just no way Naughty Dog didn’t know what state their game was in.

Now whether they went too far with this plan & screwed the game entirely is another matter but from a business perspective (& considering Jim Ryan’s wailings over the Activision deal) do I think these guys are capable of this sort of wacko 4D Chess? Maybe.

ND’s typical pipeline wouldn’t normally account for the diverse hardware configurations required for PC. The most they would have ever dealt with before would have been what, 3 (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5)? I’m not saying they’re faultless, but the conspiracy theories pointing to the fact that it was done intentionally are a bit ridiculous. It only damages their reputation and won’t really get any additional sales for PS5.

[pg2g]

@binarymelon

ND’s typical pipeline wouldn’t normally account for the diverse hardware configurations required for PC. The most they would have ever dealt with before would have been what, 3 (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5)? I’m not saying they’re faultless, but the conspiracy theories pointing to the fact that it was done intentionally are a bit ridiculous. It only damages their reputation and won’t really get any additional sales for PS5.

I don’t think they intentionally did a bad port, but they did (intentionally) release a bad port. They knew what state it was in when they released it.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@binarymelon

ND’s typical pipeline wouldn’t normally account for the diverse hardware configurations required for PC. The most they would have ever dealt with before would have been what, 3 (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5)? I’m not saying they’re faultless, but the conspiracy theories pointing to the fact that it was done intentionally are a bit ridiculous. It only damages their reputation and won’t really get any additional sales for PS5.

Yeah that one just boils down to Sony wanting to rush it out to capitalise on the show

But it also kind of shows how they feel about PC, they’d never release the PS version in that state and they clearly knew how bad it was before they launched it

[AllianceOfficer]

This is a throwback to an old Dring article, but I think its so laughable that at one point Dring called Microsoft Trumpian when Sony has been the one bringing these absolute insane claims and screaming and crying from the start only getting louder and louder any time aomething doesnt go their way.

Where are the articles talking about that

[Anecronomicon]

@binarymelon

ND’s typical pipeline wouldn’t normally account for the diverse hardware configurations required for PC. The most they would have ever dealt with before would have been what, 3 (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5)? I’m not saying they’re faultless, but the conspiracy theories pointing to the fact that it was done intentionally are a bit ridiculous. It only damages their reputation and won’t really get any additional sales for PS5.

Normally I’d totally agree with you.

But if Sony’s responses to the CMA are anything to go by, “normal” is an alien concept over at SIE headquarters. PC isn’t some sort of unknown tech, i.e. even the most indie of indie developers release PC ports without a hiccup. The Last of Us Remake is also a recent title with a later PC port factored in during its production, i.e. we’re not talking about the PS3 Cell version of the first game but the very recent remake.

Something whacky happened & it’s a toss-up regarding the how, why & when the decision was made to release the game in its current condition.

[BadNews]

Interesting to make these claims when they just released one of the worst ports to the PC .

[Voodoopeople]

It really is embarrassing now, from Sony and Jim Ryan.

As others have alluded to, MS seems to be negotiating in parallel with both EU and CMA now and the focus appears to be refining their remedies as opposed to trying to convince them that remedies are possible. The door is firmly open now. Sony have been squarely pushed out of the way.

All that is left now is for MS to make some final concessions and this is all over.

[Vonterribad (Matt)]

@Anecronomicon

expensive machines could run it properly & everyone else might default to thinking “oh well, I’ll buy a PS5 instead”.

No one would play a horrific port and run out and buy a PS5. It damages the brand and as a PC player you would just think they…well they arent great developers.

I would think the opposite is true, if you release quality, people will be drawn to your brand further, and might consider picking up a ps5 over the next pc upgrade.

[Cairnst (Bill Cairns)]

@Vonterribad

No one would play a horrific port and run out and buy a PS5. It damages the brand and as a PC player you would just think they…well arent great developers.

I would think the opposite is true, if you release quality, people will be drawn to your brand further, and might consider picking up a ps5 over the next pc upgrade.

Especially with the inconsistent release schedule of PC ports for Sony, you might be waiting a year or you might end up waiting much longer - it’s all very much set up to direct people towards buying into the console ecosystem.

[Daniel]

@Infamy

I didn’t think Sony could embarrass themselves even more, but I was wrong…lmao.

Quoting Reddit and Giantbomb forum posts? Holy shit.

From 10 years ago apparently lol

[Daniel]

@AllianceOfficer

This is a throwback to an old Dring article, but I think its so laughable that at one point Dring called Microsoft Trumpian when Sony has been the one bringing these absolute insane claims and screaming and crying from the start only getting louder and louder any time aomething doesnt go their way.

Where are the articles talking about that

I wonder where is after these comments

[Deus (Encyclopaedia Ludica)]

-20 days for CMA deadline.

[binarymelon]

Sony finally convinced me the deal should be blocked. It’s clearly not good for Jim Ryan’s mental health.

[Infamy]

@Daniel

From 10 years ago apparently lol

Oh my god

edits post

[TheSlickTony (Marcus Pierce)]

I want to say what Sony is doing is hilarious, but, it’s not. It’s sad. Really, REALLY, sad. They scrapped the bottom of the barrel so furiously they poked a hole in it.

[howlingmosquito (mosquito)]

Well at least that 24% is a bit more realistic than Microsofts 4 % figure.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@binarymelon

ND’s typical pipeline wouldn’t normally account for the diverse hardware configurations required for PC. The most they would have ever dealt with before would have been what, 3 (PS4, PS4 Pro, PS5)? I’m not saying they’re faultless, but the conspiracy theories pointing to the fact that it was done intentionally are a bit ridiculous. It only damages their reputation and won’t really get any additional sales for PS5.

Could you kindly stop accusing forum members of being “conspiracy theorists”? You tend to do so a lot and it’s past the point of being acceptable. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s take doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory, especially when people are simply pointing to real world examples as supplements to the asinine positions Sony has taken.

[Sparda3g]

@Deus

-20 days for CMA deadline.

According to Sony, it’s the countdown to apocalypse.

[Knottian (Daniel)]

@Sparda3g

According to Sony, it’s the countdown to apocalypse.