Depends on the price. Nvidia Shield price (ideally slightly lower) would be neat.
the idea of a third party cloud device that could host multiple services aka Geforce Now, Xcloud, Stadia(lol), PS streaming etc is nice
big battery, decent controls, decent screen is all i need
the more the merrier honestly, especially if it means avoiding tencent
Another argument why Microsoft shouldnāt release its own handhold.
I just ordered an AYN Odin Lite. Iām guessing this might be similar to that or any of the other Android handhelds.
Yeah, no thanks.
I like the trend of 3rd party handhelds. I donāt like Tencent on the backend. Hope this trend continues with other companies and if Microsoft doesnāt want to develop their own, they also form a partnership.
Same, if anything itās still good for competition though e.g. pricingā¦
I would buy an Xbox handheld super fast.
Anyone end up preordering this? $299 is too high of a price for me (let alone the $349 msrp that itās supposedly going to be listed at after the $50 off preorder bonus), but there was a $50 coupon at the Logitech store which brought this down to $249 w/ free shipping.
I preordered one at that price.
Even at $249, itās a bit more than I would want to spend, although I donāt think itās unreasonable considering the Razer Kishi and Backbone controllers go for $99 all by themselves, just for a controller, whereas this includes a 1080p screen, a large battery, an SOC, RAM, wifi chip, on board storage, etcā¦ etcā¦ Anyone thinking something like this would be $150 werenāt really thinking this through.
So anyway, Iām really excited for this to arrive. Iāve used my iPhone 13 Pro Max w/ Razer Kishi, my iPad Mini 6 w/ a controller clip, and my MacBook Pro for Remote Play and/or Xbox Cloud Gaming, and none of them were able to provide that true handheld experience that Iām looking for. It sure looks like this device will do the trick.
So yeah, anyone else interested in this product? I recognize that it probably appeals to a small niche of consumers, but I fit firmly within that niche.
There was a bunch of discussion going on in the Community thread when the news of this device first dropped.
Starting with this post:
Thanks! Seems I kinda missed the window to chime in there.
I just think many are missing the philosophy behind a device like this.
The Switch, Steam Deck, and Xbox/PS consoles are sold for a more attractive price because they 1.) Are intended for mass adoption/huge sales numbers & 2.) Are able to be sold at very small profit margins or oftentimes at a loss because the real money is made from software/subscription sales.
This device clearly is intended for a niche market and mass adoption is not anticipated. Itās no different from the Backbone controller being sold at $100. Itās sold at this price because total sales numbers will be in the hundreds of thousands w/ no software sales rather than the many millions, oftentimes 50/60/70/100+ million in sales w/ software kickbacks that occurs with the other devices this has been compared to. That or devices like the Ayn Odin that has a smaller screen, worse battery life, a less ergonomic controller, and needed a $4mil plus Kickstarter campaign to come to fruition.
Itās no different than third party elite controllers from SCUF or AIM or other 3rd party manufacturers being sold for $250+. Itās meant for a niche audience and any and all profits are made from the hardware sales so the price is going to be higher.
Just my two cents. I do think $349 is wayyyy too high, $299 is still too high, $249 reaches that āreasonableā price point, and $199 wouldāve been a steal.
Either way, canāt wait to get my hands on mine. I think it has the potential to be the best game streaming handheld on the market, which is an exciting prospect.
What coupon did you find for 50 off? The only one Iām seeing is for 30 off
SEP22USD , but Iām assuming it expired in September.
Thanks. The one I found appears to be an influencer code, it is āSHROUDā and it says itās for 5 percent but it seems to be doing 10 percent instead.
All great points. A few thoughts though, which arenāt meant as counter-arguments:
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I think the Backbone comes with its own software and even a subscription or something?
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There are a few different AYN Odin models, some of which are (I believe) better than this device in some respects. Like you said though, thereās no question that Logitech is more reliable than a company that had to run an Indiegogo and are having huge issues getting products in hands. I saw a YouTube video comparing the two the other day, Iāll see if I can dig it up.
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The Tencent factor isnāt easy to ignore for some.
I ordered an Odin Lite like @binarymelon and - even though Iām very excited to receive it (like you are for your Logitech G Cloud) - I know that Iām putting up with a bunch of compromises. Sadly, thereās no perfect device at a reasonable price point for this particular slice of enthusiast device, and we just have to go with whatever serves our use cases best.
I know for my part, Iām planning on cracking the Odin Lite open when it arrives to replace the sticks and face buttons, and I might also get a Beefy Grip to supplement it. Itās hardly ideal and Iām petrified that Iāll ruin its guts, but Iāve made my peace with it.
All that aside, I would really love to hear your thoughts on the LGC when you get it. Iām really hoping that this MS cloud push succeeds, and it would be great to hear about different experiences! As fun as it was to dunk on Stadia, it is a bummer that itās dying since it apparently had the best tech and competition in this subfield isnāt exactly heated.
Edit: I wanted to complain about the price of the LGC too, but my Odin Lite with extra bells and whistles will probably end up exceeding that price anyway, so
All great points!
I donāt know all the details of the Backbone subscription, but youāre right, originally the Backbone was released as just a hardware product but some time after the fact they paywalled their app ($50/year). Which if anything, makes their $100 asking price more of an eyebrow raiser.
And yeah, the Odin (and Steam Deck) definitely offers way more functionality and significantly better internal hardware compared to the Logi device, no question. If I wanted to get something more out of my handheld than just xCloud/Remote Play gaming, Iād definitely opt for the Odin or Steam Deck. But again, for the small niche of consumers that just want āthe best game streaming handheld on the marketā, which Logiās device appears to be striving for, this should be a perfect fit.
Iāll definitely chime in when I receive mine to share my impressions!
Reviews starting to drop:
Logitech G Cloud: If cloud gaming was perfect, it would be too (9to5google.com)
Logitech G Cloud Gaming Handheld review: terminally online - The Verge
Looks like it does what it intends to do well, which is play cloud games in a native handheld form factor.
Yeah, it looks like a great solution for that use case! It seems from that first review that Xcloud could use some more work though Would love to hear your experience with it when you get it, maybe this dormant thread would be a good place?
My Odin Lite just shipped, and Iām intending on posting my impressions in there. Hopefully itāll arrive before a trip I have planned, so I can test it out on hotel Wi-Fi too.
One of the less-prominent things Iām looking forward to with these android handhelds is non-gaming stuff, actually. Not sure how well itāll work but Iām curious to see how things like Plex (media streaming/downloading from a private server) and Tachiyomi (manga/comic reader) perform. Itās not all streaming, RetroArch, Daijisho, et cetera!
We might be getting on in for coverage sometimes āsoonā, not sure yet but fingers crossed!