Fanboys in general can be toxic. Yeah a lot of Sony fans were awful during the XB1/PS4 era but its probably a small vocal minority. I am glad this community brings that positive energy. We don’t need console war stuff here. And if xbox does end up on top I hope we are not nasty and toxic to PS players this gen.
To be honest most of the criticism about the PS brand seems to be from their own fanbase right now.
Thank you.
There are things we don’t know. That is the nature of this kind of story and journalism in general. But we should’nt assumed that both of their statements are equal or that they are pitted against each other. Jason has done is work and reported on the issues he learned about via anonymous sources. Anonymous sources are the essence of investigative journalism. You never can have dozen of sources, that just not how it works. But I’m pretty sure he knows his stuff. He has said that Days Gone 2 was cancelled and he was pretty non-equivocal about that info. Since then, no one at Sony denied or commented that fact. No one from Bend Studios. No one on twitter. No Sony representatives. No one.
Jeff Ross was trying not to imply that the game was cancelled because that is his responsability to not say anything about the state of the project. Imagine an ex-dev saying there will be no new Halo game after Halo Infinite or Gears 6 is cancelled. I mean, devs can’t say that for obvious reasons. So of course, he could not say the truth : that was his responsability. And he said “never say never”, because yeah, of course, anyone on earth can say that…
Jason intervention on otherEra was justified by the fact that Jeff was not truthful about his statement and he knew it. But it questionned the reliability of Jason’s sources and his profesionalism was on the line. He then reaffirmed that his statement was true and that he knew better. Jeff Ross was just protecting himself which he implied in his tweet after being done with the interview… But in his defense, Jaffe was seriously pushing him and oh man, that guy holds a grudge against Sony and I’m not sure why.
The rest of the discussion about the direction of SIE and Jim Ryan’s strategy for their internal studios is a whole other matter than we can only speculate about.
apparently days gone writer John Garvin is on Jaffe’s channel like now?
It is not at all uncommon for big stories like exposes in other fields to have literally several dozen sources. Especially in scenarios where a company is likely to be disgruntled. To be clear, the anonymity aspect isn’t the issue I’m pointing to. The issue is Jason didn’t even attempt to reach out to get the fuller picture from ppl who would have it. Jeff was clearly willing and interested in talking. Good journalists reach out and put out feelers all over the place to get all the input they possibly can, even when they know some might be bad faith.
Not sure what ya mean wrt Jeff’s comments on the Days Gone sequel. I watched it when it happened and it was perfectly clear he was saying Sony told them to stop working on it but he did not feel comfortable playing the role of announcing it got ‘canceled’ as he was not the publisher. I think we agree there(?). But Jeff was not dishonest about anything afaik (anything specific that he said?). Ppl online seemingly took something he said, twisted it to be something different so they could use it to poke holes in Jason’s article because they wanted the article to be fake news, and criticism of any form triggers Jason to show up and start calling ppl liars.
Btw, John Garvin just moments ago confirmed he was not fired due to Days Gone 2 not being greenlit and Jason did contact him and he said no comment, since he had left a week after the first game released so had no idea wtf the article was even about. He noted the article was framed in a way to suggest he was booted or was fed up and quit. ‘Nothing like that happened’, he said. That was in the original article but Jason edited to remove the mention of Garvin. Bare minimum journalism standards would require him to add a footnote saying he had incorrectly suggested Garvin leaving was related to the sequel not being greenlit, like he did when editing to correct Mumbauer’s role.
I think we agree. The video game business and technology in general is super secretive. So I think it’s hard to find someone who knows the whole picture. Who Jason chose to have contacts with, is his choice, that’s not what makes him a bad journalist. I don’t think so. He probably had contacts with multiple people from Bend studios/VASG/ND/Sony. It could be 3-4-5 to a dozen persons, we don’t know. Therefore, there could be many reasons he didn’t contact Jeff Ross.
What people said is that Jason was lying about Days Gone 2 being cancelled, cherry picking a vague response from Jeff (I think I wasn’t listening at the time, but on the forum, it was pretty clear). And that is what summoned Jason on the forum. So it could be that people twisted Jeff’s words, Idk. What is known is that Jeff knew about the cancellation and tried to avoid saying stuff that could get him in trouble. I did hear him say that the article was a bit blown out of proportion (not his exact words). But he left in december of 2020, so what happened until now, he probably don’t have much info on. About the Uncharted stuff and the team being worked up, I think that either he could not talk about it or he never knew about it.
I don’t know about the John Garvin bit. Jason is the best video game journalist we have… It doesn’t mean he’s the best journalist ever. It just happens that he has the contacts and is the first to broke on stories of issues and conflicts in the industry.
Pretty much
Jason was absolutely right in everything he said, if stupid fanboys on Twitter are attacking him without evidence he has the right to tell those people to go fuck themselves.
Good night.
See I’d disagree here since sourcing is a critical aspect of good investigative journalism. Exposes are intended to tell a story, but that story should be based on truth and he doesn’t seem interested in nuance or gray areas. I’d say that does make him a bad investigative reporter. He doesn’t need to have contact already established to call up Jeff Ross and ask for an interview. My point was there were real obvious ppl who should have been reached out to that evidently weren’t and one who was contacted had his engagement with the story’s timeline skewed deliberately to make it fit into the story Jason wanted to tell.
I wish gaming had better investigative reporters because Schreier wouldn’t last a week at any publication that actually had editors checking his work and scrutinizing it relative to industry standards. Dean Takahashi is a vastly superior investigative journalist in gaming, for instance. Patrick Klepek was too but he doesn’t appear to do much anymore.
Not everything he has said about his past articles is accurate. For instance, in his CP2077 piece from August he claimed the story was sourced to a single person, but when GI’s editor said she heard different things from producers and team leads suddenly Schreier claimed he actually had ‘almost a dozen’ sources for that article.
So either he had 12 sources and ignored all but 1 of them for not telling him what he wanted to hear, or he made up 11 other sources after the fact to save face. Neither is a good look for his credibility. The way he behaves online is also incredibly unprofessional (throwing accusations around on podcasts without even seeing wtf he referring to).
I don’t care about whatever he said about Cyberpunk, I’m talking about his latest article. And he’s totally right in everything he said and the former Bend director has confirmed he was telling the truth. There is absolutely nothing to complain about regarding his latest article apart from the semi-clickbaity title (which we know he didn’t write).
Where the hell did he bully Jason? If anything it goes two ways and Jason made assumptions without even watching Jaffes vids. Even had a personal dig at Jaffe for no reason. Even though Jaffe in his current outspoken state still has more insight and knowledge than Jason can ever have.
Issues with sourcing past articles is absolutely relevant to his other work including this new one. And there are potential issues with sourcing here again too, such as him not bothering to reach out to the ppl who have the full picture and want to talk (like Jeff) or twisting timelines to fit his narrative even when the facts undercut said narrative (like the time/reason Garvin left).
I have no issue with the article’s headline. I do have an issue with him running around the internet telling anyone who will listen that Jeff was lying when Jeff didn’t say anything contrary to the article, and with Schreier pretending he is the only one with the full picture when Jeff said he was exaggerating some stuff.
Errrr…the entire video is Jaffe doing that and making a complete ass of himself. The thumbnail of the vid and its title, the way he cuts in to moan and talk shit and make fun of Schreier…all of it is bullying and it’s pathetic to see a grown man act that way. Jaffe is right to call Scrheier out for not watching the interview but labeling ppl as liars anyhow. That is 100% moronic behavior by Schreier right in line with his over-the-top reactionary posturing any time anyone so much as questions anything he wrote. That doesn’t justify Jaffe being…well, Jaffe.
Who else feels demoralized when yet another Sony blockbuster(Spiderman Miles Morales) happens? Yeah it’s outsold TLOU 2 in the US. Big banger after big banger from Sony and the last exclusive content for AAA from Xbox was Gears 5 Hivebusters DLC in late 2020. The last full game was Gears 5 in Nov 2019 and that didn’t sell multi-millions. At a certain point, you have to feel DOWN and inferior to Playstation.
Don’t let it get to you this way man. 
You can always sell your Xbox for a PlayStation if you want to play Spider-Man. Don’t have to be part of a team. It’s about having fun.
And yes, Insomniac does know how to make fun games as Sunset Overdrive and Ratchet and Clank are amazing games. (Haven’t played Spider-Man though).
Not really tbh. Xbox Game Pass is giving me all these great games in the meantime (including day one stuff!) and a bunch of third-party games that have caught my interest are releasing very soon.
Way off topic… Why do you have to turn yet another topic into doom and gloom for xbox?
Seriously. It’s hard to believe how much doom and gloom there is currently when we have so many things to look forward to. I don’t get it.
I got TLLDOB on block.