Yakuza Performance on Xbox Series S

[JAMIE_ODST]

@peter42O

True but the other three were ports of games that were two years old or older. Plus, it seems like Microsoft helped with funding and whatnot for the game in order for it to be a launch title for Series X/Series S while the PlayStation 5 version is due out in April but all other versions are the same day.

Best bet is that unless you have no other games to play, I would give it a few weeks and see what happens. Also, the build was an early preview build and may even be better at launch.

Well I mean I dont think its going to change at launch as that comment is from a Sega Dev saying how its going to run on Series S but I could be wrong. Fair points friend lets hope!

[TavishHill]

@JAMIE_ODST

I mean I dont think people thought “900p” when it comes to Series S when its being touted at a 1440P console

They definitely thought it would be lower, actually. The headline here isn’t that it’s 900p on XSS in a vacuum. It should be that ppl claiming XSS can’t just scale back res were proven totally wrong. The 60fps mode is 1440p on XSX. So 1440p–>900p is pretty solidly in line with the optimistic expectations around XSS performance.

[TavishHill]

@Eduardo

It’s 4k60 per IGN video

I think that is the res of just the video feed, not the native render.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@TavishHill

They definitely thought it would be lower, actually. The headline here isn’t that it’s 900p on XSS in a vacuum. It should be that ppl claiming XSS can’t just scale back res were proven totally wrong. The 60fps mode is 1440p on XSX. So 1440p–>900p is pretty solidly in line with the optimistic expectations around XSS performance.

I suppose. Maybe I just thought it could atleast do 1080p/60fps But yeah I get what you are saying.

[TavishHill]

For reference:

• Series X: 4K/30, 1440p/60
• Series S: 1440p/30, 900p/60
• PS4 Pro: 1080p/30
• PS4: 900p/30

…so XSS is nearly doubling the performance of the Pro. >.>

[TavishHill]

@JAMIE_ODST

I suppose. Maybe I just thought it could atleast do 1080p/60fps But yeah I get what you are saying.

Apparently it’s a super demanding game on all platforms. I’m not sure I’d assume so given its aesthetic, but might just be not great art direction. Or not great engine design/tech too.

[peter42O]

@JAMIE_ODST

Well I mean I dont think its going to change at launch as that comment is from a Sega Dev saying how its going to run on Series S but I could be wrong. Fair points friend lets hope!

Oh wow. I completely missed that a Sega Dev said that. Hopefully, it gets a patch to improve the resolution and performance.

I do believe that Microsoft should have marketed the Xbox Series S as a 1080P console, not 1440P but it is what it is.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@TavishHill

Apparently it’s a super demanding game on all platforms. I’m not sure I’d assume so given its aesthetic, but might just be not great art direction. Or not great engine design/tech too.

Well from what I have heard the engine has a fair amount of trouble on PC so that is likely the case.

Thanks for the info, helps put it into perspective.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@peter42O

Oh wow. I completely missed that a Sega Dev said that. Hopefully, it gets a patch to improve the resolution and performance.

I do believe that Microsoft should have marketed the Xbox Series S as a 1080P console, not 1440P but it is what it is.

Hopefully man

[Eduardo]

@peter42O

Oh wow. I completely missed that a Sega Dev said that. Hopefully, it gets a patch to improve the resolution and performance.

I do believe that Microsoft should have marketed the Xbox Series S as a 1080P console, not 1440P but it is what it is.

But The Coalition can run Gears 5 MP at 120fps on Series S

this is just straight up bad optimization or engine problems

[JAMIE_ODST]

@Eduardo

But The Coalition can run Gears 5 MP at 120fps on Series S

this is just straight up bad optimization or engine problems

But did they mention what resolution it is at when running at 120fps?

[peter42O]

@Eduardo

But The Coalition can run Gears 5 MP at 120fps on Series S

this is just straight up bad optimization or engine problems

True but I would think that it’s easier to run a “map” for MP than it would be to run an entire game world for single player.

[brunopcosta1 (Bruno Costa)]

Yeah, like I said, the problem here is not Microsoft or the Series S. The problem is that for some reason RGG Studio is not hitting a next-gen performance with the game.

I’m one of the biggest defenders of the Series S on this forum. I think it is a fantastic console that will manage to run many next-gen games at 1440p/60fps (like Dirt 5 and The Falconeer).

And for a long time there was no confirmation if Yakuza would even run at 4K — that was just confirmed a couple of weeks ago. Everything points to a tech/engine problem.

Nonetheless, it is a turn-based game. Framerate is not as important as it is for a shooter or racing game.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@brunopcosta1

Yeah, like I said, the problem here is not Microsoft or the Series S. The problem is that for some reason RGG Studio is not hitting a next-gen performance with the game.

I’m one of the biggest defenders of the Series S on this forum. I think it is a fantastic console that will manage to run many next-gen games at 1440p/60fps (like Dirt 5 and The Falconeer).

And for a long time there was no confirmation if Yakuza would even run at 4K — that was just confirmed a couple of weeks ago. Everything points to a tech/engine problem.

Nonetheless, it is a turn-based game. Framerate is not as important as it is for a shooter or racing game.

Yeah I agree with the engine problems after looking more into it.

[PhantomFox]

We should take into consideration that this game was released solely for PlayStation 4 back in January for Japan. RGG Studio most likely did not develop this game with Xbox Series X | S in mind. So, this is really just a current-gen game that is playable for next-gen. But yeah, they definitely could’ve optimized it better. And as many have already said, the engine isn’t exactly the best.

[LucasTaves]

@JAMIE_ODST

Kinda worrying tbh

Nah, the studio is really underbudgeted. Yakuza’s on X are massively lower resolution than other similar scoped games and pushes a lower visual fidelity too.

@brunopcosta1

Dirt 5 runs at 1440p/60fps on the Series S and 4k/60fps on the Series X. A game’s performance on the Series S will depend on how well it runs on the Series X. For some reason RGG Studio failed to deliver a next-gen performance on the Series X, and because of that the Series S will suffer more.

The Falconeer is another good example. It runs at 4K/60fps on the Series X and at 1800p/60fps on the Series S — an even higher resolution than the 1440p advertised for the console!

Though in that case it’s a game hitting 6k or higher internally on SX so it explains why SS is above the marketed target.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@PhantomFox

We should take into consideration that this game was released solely for PlayStation 4 back in January for Japan. RGG Studio most likely did not develop this game with Xbox Series X | S in mind. So, this is really just a current-gen game that is playable for next-gen. But yeah, they definitely could’ve optimized it better. And as many have already said, the engine isn’t exactly the best.

I had no idea this game had already released back in Jan, Thanks for the insight

[Daniel]

If there is issues and it’s not the studio it would have to be the new dev kit envoriment that MS has been super late with and probably will take studios time to get used to it GDK.

[JAMIE_ODST]

@Daniel

If there is issues and it’s not the studio it would have to be the new dev kit envoriment that MS has been super late with and probably will take studios time to get used to it GDK.

Thats a real good point, Always slips my mind how late MS was with the Dev Kits

[Plagueborne]

Yakuza kiwami has some pop in on base xbone lol and its a small city. I think they need to work on their engine.