XboxEra Community Hangout |OT8| Waiting for E3 2023

[Friday]

@BRiT

Kojima should sue . fuck these racist assholes .

[Vivir]

@Friday

Kojima should sue . fuck these racist assholes .

https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1545751079685484544?s=20&t=uCMMj6qWQTsUnd0L0000WA

[Mort]

@Staffy

We’ve had this talk in the studio thread too, but all in all it would be nice if XGS could start communicating a little about these projects. Anything, artwork. Some details on what they are going for. They don’t even need to give crazy details, which would risk disappointing fans if they don’t end up in the game, just a general idea really.

That would be very nice.

[Friday]

@Vivir

damn . That was fast . Good shit .

[Sparda3g]

I’m a little surprised that people didn’t compare with Elon Musk to Xbox like they can say, “Microsoft is going to cancel their agreement as well!.” I know it’s a different scope and story, but you know how people can be these days (sadly).

[Staffy]

@TheBrightestSun

I think Microsoft will have another show this year 100%. Anecdotally I suspect it is gonna be in autumn lol. 12 month format will prevent them from making show in spring (because it will overlap with 12 month E3 show).

Avowed close as in mid to late 2023. I don’t think anyone expected that to release so close to Starfield and Redfall.

As for Contraband, I could swear Jez or another insider said that there was some kind of setback and Contraband was no longer planned for this year. Something like that.

@Vivir

…comes to an Xbox show. Sony has done the opposite over the last 10 years and cultivated a certain expectation of what their games will be which helps create an extremely passionate fanbase because there’s comfort in knowing your needs/wants are catered to you. While it’s been extremely successful for them, it’s also becoming increasingly clear that there’s a certain ceiling in terms of how many gamers you can reach with the “AAA third person formula” which is why they’ve been heavily investing in live service games and bringing their games to PC. Phil and the Xbox team are ahead of the curve when it comes to that but it’s also part of the reason why you see the lack of “unity” or “passion” when it comes to Xbox. That’ll come with time as Xbox comes into their own. 2023 will be proof of that.

But that last bit is what we tell ourselves every year now and I’d love for it to be true but I do think it’s not gonna happen if Xbox repeats next year what they did last June, solely covering the next twelve months.

Unless they really have a ton of stuff from their studios coming in those next twelve months, I guess it could work then. But this would likely STILL mean nothing on Fable. And for those cases I would make the show so that it still has some further out stuff too.

[TheBrightestSun]

@Sparda3g

“Microsoft is going to cancel their agreement as well!.”

I think a lot of people just accepted that the deal won’t fail.

[pg2g]

Next year’s show would cover til mid 2024, they should have a fair amount to show.

[Vivir]

@Staffy

But that last bit is what we tell ourselves every year now and I’d love for it to be true but I do think it’s not gonna happen if Xbox repeats next year what they did last June, solely covering the next twelve months.

Unless they really have a ton of stuff from their studios coming in those next twelve months, I guess it could work then. But this would likely STILL mean nothing on Fable. And for those cases I would make the show so that it still has some further out stuff too.

I feel you, I’m just choosing to be optimistic. I don’t think they’ll repeat the “12 month” cap type of show again.

I think their hand got forced when everything basically went to shit for them in terms of output of first party games this year.

[BRiT]

@Vivir

I feel you, I’m just choosing to be optimistic. I don’t think they’ll repeat the “12 month” cap type of show again.

It will be their modus operandi ongoing.

[Vivir]

@BRiT

It will be their modus operandi ongoing.

I disagree but we’ll see what happens next year.

[TheBrightestSun]

@Staffy

As for Contraband, I could swear Jez or another insider said that there was some kind of setback and Contraband was no longer planned for this year. Something like that.

It was Grubb who said that Avalanche is behind the schedule.

@Staffy

But this would likely STILL mean nothing on Fable.

It is possible that we won’t have anything on Fable on the next E3. Maybe even nothing on Everwild.

@Vivir

I don’t think they’ll repeat the “12 month” cap type of show again.

I think they will and it will be the path they will go forward with

[BRiT]

@Vivir

I disagree but we’ll see what happens next year.

They will have far too many studios to fit into one big E3 style consumer-length showcases. Thats without the 3rd party partnerships for GamePass inclusion too. It becomes natural solution to focus on just next 12 months to limit the event runtime down.

[pg2g]

The 12 thing just makes too much sense, I just think they did it a year earlier than they should have. That’s something you start when ur pipeline is already strong lol.

[Vivir]

@TheBrightestSun

I think they will and it will be the path they will go forward with

They’ll probably do it for their own personal show but I don’t think they’ll do it at E3.

[Mort]

We’re back at “next year!” and “just wait!” allready huh.

[pg2g]

@Mort

We’re back at “next year!” and “just wait!” allready huh.

H1 2023 looking pretty stacked lol

[Mort]

@pg2g

H1 2023 looking pretty stacked lol

“XXXX is looking pretty stacked” is another classic!

[Staffy]

@BRiT

They will have far too many studios to fit into one big E3 style consumer-length showcases. Thats without the 3rd party partnerships for GamePass inclusion too. It becomes natural solution to focus on just next 12 months to limit the event runtime down.

It’s not a problem if they have more than one show a year. With ABK joining the family soon it’s just going to be way too much for one show. And if not in the big showcase, maybe have some stuff that is further out than twelve months for other streams.

[pg2g]

One thing I don’t really understand is why some of the Podcaster get so upset about them referring to the next 12 months, or fiscal year, as opposed to calendar year.

What ultimately matters is how long from today am I going to be playing a game and January 2023 ain’t that different from December 2022. Seems so arbitrary to focus on it.