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[Mort]

@saintsflow20

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And it looks like Pentiment will be the next example in bad MS localizations.

Would it be the same in 16th century german? I know old Swedish is weird af at least. Point is, modern German would most likely be wrong anyway.

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@Vivir

You from Toronto too ?

Nice - another fellow from Toronto like me lol

[Daniel]

@DARK-PARADISE

It will vary depending on language, but judging from my experience with Arabic localization, yeah most localizations are not good, the best I’ve seen are Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077, and some of the best weirdly include Forza 6, but MS stopped localizaing in Arabic after Gears 5 for some reason.

Oh so it’s not just a Xbox thing? Anyway I hope something is done with this for all the non English speaking friends. I wonder if getting a publisher or studio within these countries could help.

[CallMeCraig]

@saintsflow20

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And it looks like Pentiment will be the next example in bad MS localizations.

I’m pretty sure both are not authentic 16 century GermanBavarian. Font should also be different if we are anal about this.

[Kals_Els]

@TheBrightestSun

Probably not. What Microsoft needs in Europe is more marketing. Because right now even with price increase when talking about the next gen consoles you can always hear only “Playstation”, “Playstation”. After all a lot folks bought PS from scalpers before so this price increase won’t matter.

But actually outrage is relatively tame. I remember the outrage for Xbox Live Gold price increase and it was not that important thing for Xbox in the first place. But people were still outraged.

But won’t Scalpers raise the price on their consoles as well?

[TheBrightestSun]

@Kals_Els

But won’t Scalpers raise the price on their consoles as well?

The point is that people were buying the consoles even with scalpler’s prices so if the retailers increase the prices (with Sony’s official prize increase) it won’t matter. Playstation is a hot item.

[CryOn]

@CallMeCraig

I’m pretty sure both are not authentic 16 century GermanBavarian. Font should also be different if we are anal about this.

Picture is still correct. No one would use “Zwei Unschuldiger” in German.

[Mort]

@CryOn

Picture is still correct. No one would use “Zwei Unschuldiger” in German.

What would it say in 16th century Bavaria then? Until we know that, everything is wrong.

[DARK-PARADISE]

@Daniel

Oh so it’s not just a Xbox thing?

No, most are like that. Localization overall is like that, in movies and TV as well. Good localization is expensive and takes time.

[CryOn]

@Mort

What would it say in 16th century Bavaria then? Until we know that, everything is wrong.

Yeah, that’s true. I just hate the german language.

[CallMeCraig]

@Mort

What would it say in 16th century Bavaria then? Until we know that, everything is wrong.

If they wrote it authentic a German would have probably great difficulties reading it. Our language history before Luther is ähm, complicated.

[Staffy]

Posted yet? From yesterday. Xbox booth show has a trailer too, but this shows a lot more.

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[Mort]

@CallMeCraig

If they wrote it authentic a German would have probably great difficulties reading it. Our language history before Luther is ähm, complicated.

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. We borrowed a lot of German words from that time, and after that from French, and later on English. Mix that with our old norse… Swedish is hard to learn, or so I’m told and have varied a lot. 16th century Swedish is…readable but very different both in spelling, grammar and synthax etc.

@CryOn

Yeah, that’s true. I just hate the german language.

I’ve studied a bit of German… it’s not easy and a lot of rules, or lack thereof and exceptions, makes no sense haha. Our languages are similar though, with a lot of common words so that helps a bit.

[Jeans]

Yeah, localization is a necessary investment. I still can’t fathom how Psychonauts on Xbox had a whole french localization and Psychonauts 2 had none for example. Xbox don’t see the benefits, but that’s really important. I see so many angry comments on games that doesn’t support french language, sometimes not even subtitles, in the store and it’s been going on for a while.

[SpiderLink]

They really need to step up their language support, it’s very embarrassing to read about. They can certainly afford it.

[Jeans]

@Mort

I’ve studied a bit of German… it’s not easy and a lot of rules, or lack thereof and exceptions, makes no sense haha. Our languages are similar though, with a lot of common words so that helps a bit.

I remember an indie dev saying that when working on subtitles or anything written on screen, no game is prepared for German writing. You have to plan in advance the space for that and it’s never enough !

[TheBrightestSun]

I want some acquisition

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

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[Mort]

@Jeans

I remember an indie dev saying that when working on subtitles or anything written on screen, no game is prepared for German writing. You have to plan in advance the space for that and it’s never enough !

Yeah, we also have that German specialty of super long words. It’s not used much, but allowed in the Swedish language. Words like parkeringsautomatsutbytarplats is technically allowed, but no one talks or write like that hehe.

Myself, I prefer authentic spoken language (if applicable, otherwise English) in whatever I play or watch, and English subs.

[BRiT]

@Jeans

I remember an indie dev saying that when working on subtitles or anything written on screen, no game is prepared for German writing. You have to plan in advance the space for that and it’s never enough !

Yup. We always made sure to have 2.5 times the space from the get go and still had to revise after translations came back.