XboxEra Community Hangout |OT4| Meat Circus

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

Id expect the Battlefield punchcard to go up in 2 days. They have a sweepstake going on for it right now and the Destiny punchcard ends in 2 days.

[Daniel]

@BRiT

Everyone is also forgetting for around 6 months of this year Xbox had a timed exclusive with Cyberpunk 2077. Sure it was because Sony delisted it from their platform, but still …

I don’t know if my sealed Xbox One X Cyberpunk 2077 is worth more or less now after the release

[pg2g]

@Staffy

And as for timed exclusives? Xbox is not against them, otherwise Stalker 2 would have been multiplatform. It’s only two months, which is nothing compared to what Sony is doing. Wonder why Xbox didn’t lock it down for a year, just not worth the money? Also, can we see Stalker 2 as AAA? I’d say so after seeing that trailer.

They had to pay for it to be both Game Pass Day 1 and timed exclusive.

An Xbox timed exclusive is going to cost more than a PS timed exclusive due to marketshare. Adding Game Pass to it makes it cost even more.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@pg2g

They had to pay for it to be both Game Pass Day 1 and timed exclusive.

An Xbox timed exclusive is going to cost more than a PS timed exclusive due to marketshare. Adding Game Pass to it makes it cost even more.

Anyway this thing moneyhats are too costly for Xbox is an urban legend, they did massively during PS2 days or early 8th gen days when they were much more steamrolled by PS than now (it was also a core strategy for 360, but then they were the top dog). It’s simply not part of their core strategy, we have to accept it with all the plus (more budget for 1st party, acquisitions and indies) and the flaws (risk of big profile releseas skipping the platform and consequences).

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@thiagosilva

oh no…

Good news is reviewers will get there hands on starting next month

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@javycane

Cyberpunk got a 20GB update and its not a X|s patch. The wait continues.

just get a PC at this point lmfao.

[pg2g]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

Anyway this thing moneyhats are too costly for Xbox is an urban legend, they did massively during PS2 days or early 8th gen days when they were much more steamrolled by PS than now (it was also a core strategy for 360, but then they were the top dog). It’s simply not part of their core strategy, we have to accept it with all the plus (more budget for 1st party, acquisitions and indies) and the flaws (risk of big profile releseas skipping the platform and consequences).

I am glad you are accepting that, lol.

Though just to clarify, the value associated with the money hat is inherently tied to their strategy, so when someone says it’s too costly that just means it’s not a good deal based on their cost benefit analysis.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@pg2g

I am glad you are accepting that, lol.

Though just to clarify, the value associated with the money hat is inherently tied to their strategy, so when someone says it’s too costly that just means it’s not a good deal based on their cost benefit analysis.

I accept it, while I don’t agree with it, when I hear they are “all in” backed by CEO of MS (never happened before), I’d expect a counter fire on all directions, not all but one, but this is the situation we live in.

[Staffy]

@pg2g

They had to pay for it to be both Game Pass Day 1 and timed exclusive.

An Xbox timed exclusive is going to cost more than a PS timed exclusive due to marketshare. Adding Game Pass to it makes it cost even more.

Yep, true that.

So maybe they should just go for day 1 Game Pass but no timed exclusivity. So let’s say BioShock does not have a deal yet, make a deal so that it goes on GP day one and PS5 gets the game too. I’m hoping this can work for them otherwise I fear a lot of promising big games from multiple pubs will get snagged by Sony for who knows how long…since they can just extend it too.

Seriously, there should be two things agsinst the rules with these timed deals. One being vague as fuck about how long it will be exclusive, and two there is no extending this deal, the deal is the deal. Sigh.

[Daniel]

@pg2g

I am glad you are accepting that, lol.

Though just to clarify, the value associated with the money hat is inherently tied to their strategy, so when someone says it’s too costly that just means it’s not a good deal based on their cost benefit analysis.

Example would you rather

1. $80m for time exclusivity Far Cry 6

or

2. $80m budget for a brand new game in exisitng IP like Banjo, Recore or Viva Pinata.

I’ll take #2 every single day of the week.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@pg2g

They had to pay for it to be both Game Pass Day 1 and timed exclusive.

An Xbox timed exclusive is going to cost more than a PS timed exclusive due to marketshare. Adding Game Pass to it makes it cost even more.

It’s weird to me, Stalker 2 looks like something Xbox gotta lock down for at least a year. 3 months is like literally nothing in this Covid era and a natural problem of mad long backlogs. People are ready to wait a year for some of these timed exclusives, heck some MFs waited for Control to come on Steam a year later before they played it.

That is of course presuming the game is only being prevented from going to PS at launch, and not if Xbox is funding console port in general. If the latter’s the case, I’m expecting it’ll be longer than 3 months for it to go to PS5.

[pg2g]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

I accept it, while I don’t agree with it, when I hear they are “all in” backed by CEO of MS (never happened before), I’d expect a counter fire on all directions, not all but one, but this is the situation we live in.

#AqcuisitionSeason

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@pg2g

#AqcuisitionSeason

Lol, that quote has backfired greatly as of now since it was said.

[Daniel]

@Ruthwik_Rao

It’s weird to me, Stalker 2 looks like something Xbox gotta lock down for at least a year. 3 months is like literally nothing in this Covid era and a natural problem of mad long backlogs. That is of course presuming the game is only being prevented from going to PS at launch, and not if Xbox is funding console port in general. If the latter’s the case, I’m expecting it’ll be longer than 3 months for it to go to PS5.

I think 3 months is probably long enough, how long do games really last in the hype cycle really. Maybe 6 months would be better but I think they’ll get their monies worth with even 3 months, maybe even Game Pass is coming into effect. Less months exclusive but get to put it in Game Pass day 1.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Daniel

I think 3 months is probably long enough, how long do games really last in the hype cycle really. Maybe 6 months would be better but I think they’ll get their monies worth with even 3 months, maybe even Game Pass is coming into effect. Less months exclusive but get to put it in Game Pass day 1.

Stalker is like a historic franchise tho. Stalker 2’s reveal and trailers views surpassed most Xbox first party games trailers, and it is absolutely huge in Europe. And it’s a genre Xbox has its identity built around. All these make it feel like 3 months is just ehh

[Daniel]

@Ruthwik_Rao

Stalker is like a historic franchise tho. Stalker 2’s reveal and trailers surpassed most Xbox first party games trailers, and it is absolutely huge in Europe. And it’s a genre Xbox has its identity built around. All these make it feel like 3 months is just ehh

Well the thing is we weren’t suppose to know it’s 3 months lol, they probably hoped we all thought it was longer and people on other platforms thought that too.

[pg2g]

@Ruthwik_Rao

It’s weird to me, Stalker 2 looks like something Xbox gotta lock down for at least a year. 3 months is like literally nothing in this Covid era and a natural problem of mad long backlogs. People are ready to wait a year for some of these timed exclusives, heck some MFs waited for Control to come on Steam a year later before they played it.

That is of course presuming the game is only being prevented from going to PS at launch, and not if Xbox is funding console port in general. If the latter’s the case, I’m expecting it’ll be longer than 3 months for it to go to PS5.

It could probably be longer, but Game Pass + timed (even if short term) is a pretty appealing offering. Especially with a streaming option, people might be willing to just give it a shot.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Daniel

Well the thing is we weren’t suppose to know it’s 3 months lol, they probably hoped we all thought it was longer and people on other platforms thought that too.

yeah lmao, we have Tim Sweeney to thank for that.

[Daniel]

@Ruthwik_Rao

yeah lmao, we have Tim Sweeney to thank for that.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@Ruthwik_Rao

Stalker is like a historic franchise tho. Stalker 2’s reveal and trailers views surpassed most Xbox first party games trailers, and it is absolutely huge in Europe. And it’s a genre Xbox has its identity built around. All these make it feel like 3 months is just ehh

That’s another proof of how tiny their deals are in this department. Sony would have locked forever and ever like FFs, lol, even more so considering it’s an indie studio from Ukraine.