XboxEra Community Hangout |OT3| Setting Low Expectations

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@BRiT

What I was disagreeing with, not from you but from some general community sentiment, was that Microsoft is doing nothing and is unwilling to try.

Thats the appearance for over a decade

[Shakez]

@BRiT

I didn’t mean to imply you were. And I agree with the historical assessment.

What I was disagreeing with, not from you but from some general community sentiment, was that Microsoft is doing nothing and is unwilling to try. That’s what I view as negative attitude. The end results may be the same, but I opt to believe they are trying to make strides and improve the situation.

Yeah, I’m sure they’re doing something, I mean I guess they kinda have to anyway.

Just hope they can go at it in full power, play dirty, throw money at them, get some massive GP deals and stuff.

[BRiT]

@javycane

Thats the appearance for over a decade

I’m not discussing history. I’m focusing on the moment and the future, which no one here knows anything about.

[Boosted_Gear]

@BRiT

I’m not discussing history. I’m focusing on the moment and the future, which no one here knows anything about.

That’s the thing, what forum members like us and even journalists knows about is generally maybe 10% from what is coming, or what is being negotiated. That’s why I’m not saying anything, because we just can’t know about all the future plans.

[AtticusFincher]

@Shakez

If MS ever think like this, then you’re right it’ll never change.

What needs to be done at very least is a GP deal, still making sure that the game comes to PlayStation and also Xbox.

Microsoft has and will always continue to make investments to be visible in that market. I just don’t think their issue is simply investment. They’re fighting against decades of brand recognition and deeply rooted relationships from the developers to the customers. They can invest as much as they want, there is always going to be a ceiling on their success. In Japan they’re like Stadia and Ouya and all those other systems that have come and gone only they keep sticking around. They’ve got their loyal pocket of fans and that’s cool.

[saintsflow20]

@Shakez

Yeah, I’m sure they’re doing something, I mean I guess they kinda have to anyway.

Just hope they can go at it in full power, play dirty, throw money at them, get some massive GP deals and stuff.

Kojima exclusive + Tales of Arise day 1 Game Pass (both are rumors floating around) will hopefully mark the start of some major power plays with Japanese content.

[Shakez]

@saintsflow20

Kojima exclusive + Tales of Arise day 1 Game Pass (both are rumors floating around) will hopefully mark the start of some major power plays with Japanese content.

Hopefully, Capcom is a monster in waiting, Dino Crisis is there…

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@saintsflow20

Kojima exclusive + Tales of Arise day 1 Game Pass (both are rumors floating around) will hopefully mark the start of some major power plays with Japanese content.

There is a rumour about Tales of Arise on GP day one? Or it’s like the Re8 one, which didn’t exist by contract.

[MaskoPower (The Game of X)]

@saintsflow20

I’m pretty sure it was confirmed that both characters have unique storylines and that you are meant to play both, which will unlock a final true ending route. I’m gonna assume that there will be at least some overlap with levels though.

Thanks!

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Shakez

Hopefully, Capcom is a monster in waiting, Dino Crisis is there…

You see the vision. Its a defunct IP go for it and Fund it. You have game pass to fall on and capcom is super hot right now.

[saintsflow20]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

There is a rumour about Tales of Arise on GP day one? Or it’s like the Re8 one, which didn’t exist by contract.

https://twitter.com/Shpeshal_Nick/status/1387384879403323392

I don’t think Sony will be preventing this deal, if it’s true. They don’t have any marketing rights or deals like with RE8. It actually may be Xbox who has the marketing rights for Arise since they revealed it at E3.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

I take all these launching on game pass deal rumors with super grain of salt. Im not doubting Ed Its just better to be on the side of caution.

[saintsflow20]

@javycane

I take all these launching on game pass deal rumors with super grain of salt. Im not doubting Ed Its just better to be on the side of caution.

Oh yes, very true. Even the Kojima game I’m taking with a big grain of salt.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@saintsflow20

Oh yes, very true. Even the Kojima game I’m taking with a big grain of salt.

I dont believe the Kojima thing until his game actually launches lmao.

[Mort]

@javycane

I dont believe the Kojima thing until his game actually launches lmao.

I’ve simply stopped caring about rumours, most of it is bs anyway or completely wrong on details. The vagueness is annoying, and is usually nothing we can’t guess ourselves.

[Joe_Sinister1 (Joe_Sinister)]

@FacelessSamurai

I never understood why Koei Tecmo would have a bad relationship with MS when DOA and Ninja Gaiden were staples of the Xbox platform at the time and did really well there. You’d think Team Ninja would want to develop for Xbox considering their history with MS.

Itagaki liked the Xbox platform. If you notice it was all games he was involved with that were exclusive to xbox . Hell he was fairly vocal about it. (It’s why a certain subset of “gamers” dislike him)the second he left Tecmo that shit ended. No more exclusives for xbox and games like Ni oh missed it completely.

Funny thing is DOA and NG sold very well on xbox so I never understood where the "Japanese games don’t do well on xbox " nonsense comes from. They do if they’re good and you know actually release on the console.

Capcom games have no trouble selling on xbox and last I checked they’re Japanese. But Capcom actually releases games on xbox on a regular basis (SFV notwithstanding) unlike Square Enix. So people actually buy them. Can’t purchase what isn’t there.

Also any notion that SE doesn’t want to put games on xbox because Gamepass is silly for a few reasons. Outriders being the biggest one. If anything Square is likely looking for MS to throw bags of upfront money at them for Gamepass deals.

[batman14]

I know we were talking about just Japanese games but it would be cool if MS could fund some older games people want to bring back from 3rd party like

Dino Crisis

Legacy of Kain

Splinter Cell

Lost Planet

Jet Set Radio

Panzer Dragoon

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@saintsflow20

I don’t think Sony will be preventing this deal, if it’s true. They don’t have any marketing rights or deals like with RE8. It actually may be Xbox who has the marketing rights for Arise since they revealed it at E3.

Thanks, I didn’t know, this one is very likely, considering relationships with Bandai Namco. It would be the first high profile game on day one from them. Maybe Scarlent Nexus will be added on E3 day.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@batman14

I know we were talking about just Japanese games but it would be could if MS could fund some older games people want to bring back from 3rd party like

Dino Crisis

Legacy of Kain

Splinter Cell

Lost Planet

Jet Set Radio

Panzer Dragoon

With how hot Capcom is lately the fact that dino crisis is there …

[Louay]

@javycane

Signing Kojima doesnt change the reality of JRPG’s and japanese investment. Kojima is like the least traditional japanese developer out there and is the equivalent of a free agent signing to show off.

Not saying its bad but not entirely related to the discussion I believe.

Kojima games appeal more to the West than Asian market