XboxEra Community Hangout |OT13| The Bakers Dozen

Nick is going to be the guy that gets it right like he does most of the time. Sony helped with the port and now Microsoft is doing the same for Xbox Series X/S.

That’s not the same thing. Sony paid to help out with Callisto Protocol and even let them use their motion capture studio or some shit like that yet there was no exclusivity for the game itself at all.

What I said IS accurate. Games on PC require you have 16GB of RAM even though you don’t get all 16GB of RAM on your PC. It’s the same thing as me saying 10GB of RAM for Series S. There’s no difference here.

I don’t have any narrative and if anything, people HERE are those with the narratives because whenever it’s a Series S issue, it’s BULLSHIT right? But an exclusivity deal from Sony must be true right? Come on Brit.

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4 years into this gen. Series S has 2000 ishgames…only 2 have had an issue…they both had an issue after showing up at a Sony event. One of these games is being reported as an exclusivity deal.

1998 games launched ok. Series S holding back Series X. Switch holding back PS5.

I dont really get the shock. Sony has always done this kind of shit. The Cell processor anyone?

Project Assassins? Virtua Fighter 5? Mercenaries 2 :World In Flames. Fatal Inertia. Silent Hill 2 remaster, Final Fantasy 16. Deathloop? And so on.

I dont blame them. They lost the call of duty market.

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This sucks. Guess I shouldn’t expect dlc or expansions for Visions of Mana.

https://x.com/gematsu/status/1829336058707820603

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Yeah, it’s shit news and seems likely to me that it will continue to happen with other studios they invested in.

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Agreed. And Visions of Mana just released today. At least give them a month after releasing the game. I wonder if Square Enix was pleased with their work on Mana. If so, maybe they can snatch them from Net Ease.

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Would be better than closing them, but I assume Square Enix also trying to cut down cost? As they recently closed another of their mobile games.

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When all is said and done it just sucks that we have no idea when we can expect to play Wukong on Xbox. Whatever the reasons are, deal or no deal. We know that MS was working with them as per their own statement.

I liked it more when that was just the only news. Sounded like there was a good chance of playing this early next year or so. Who tf knows when now. Sigh.

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Ok, but that doesn’t mean the Series S is the problem. Rather, it was struggling on all consoles and Sony paid to make sure the devs focused on getting the PS version ready for launch.

Technical issues aside, it sounds reminiscent of the LAD 7 situation, where Xbox did not pay for next-gen exclusivity as was being implied, but for RGG to get the Series S|X version out in time for the console’s launch.

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Yep that’s what I’m thinking having read all the different sources, that it’s less a true exclusivity deal and more paying to prioritise the PS5 build over the Xbox one.

The developer does have a history of being unprofessional (according to IGN) so it’s likely rather than just admitting that which a more experienced one might have, they’ve instead deflected citing technical issues.

It’s also why Xbox mentioned commercial deals in place, and letting people blame the Series S suits Sony as it can create a bad narrative around that console (given it’s the lowest priced way into this generation, which some may want for the new COD to get SSD speeds, or to be able to play NCAA or GTA6).

So no big conspiracy either way (although it could have been handled better), just annoying for those players on Xbox who want to try it

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Yep. Grubb is corroboarting what Nick said as well. So I guess we’re back to that memory leak issue. Hopefully not an issue that will set it back too much. Despite some lesser great things I’ve seen in the videos, I definitely want to try it out.

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Potentially - but that excuse always sounded a bit fishy anyway as a memory leak you track down the source and fix it, it doesn’t mean you indefinitely postpone your release (you’d just go quiet until you’ve found the source then once you know you can fix it announce something).

It feels more like the technical excuses are a cover for prioritising the PS5 build (as Sony gave them cash to do so), so they don’t get a backlash from Xbox gamers over it taking the extra time to release…

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This whole Wukong stuff sounds like that cartoon episode where the clip can prove a man innocent or guilty for each time the clip extends to showcase the context as a whole. One snippet paints guilty, the next paints innocent, and it keeps going and going and going.

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Yep but instead Sony fanboys take it as an opportunity to talk shit about the Series S - even if this is likely more just that Sony paid / helped to prioritise the PS5 port.

Honestly I now think part of the reason Xbox may go handheld and normal console as their two SKUs next gen is so games don’t have to target both (some may be handheld only or console only for example, particularly given a handheld won’t have anywhere near as much power as a PS6) and can avoid all this crap from sections of the gaming media and a few developers who like to moan.

Tempted to get a Pro so I can hang around PS comment sections bitching about how their inferior PS5s are holding back my Pro and I can’t believe Sony have decided to do 2 SKUs with one clearly lacking

https://x.com/paultassi/status/1829186677983863034?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

80% said no. Over 14,000 votes.

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I don’t have a PS5 yet, but if I have to get one, I would pick the base PS5 as well.

Reading through and seeing some people still want to die on the hill of Series S holding back game development…

Far more advanced next gen games than Wukong available on Series S and the only reason it had problems with BG3 was due to coop and needing to have players be able to play in 2 completely different locations and I’m guessing that must have ate up a lot of RAM and isn’t a feature that is very common in games, and definitely not in Wukong.

I’ll stick with the exclusivity story. If a console manufacturer pays a developer to shift more resources to their version of the game (if that is indeed what might have allegedly happened), it’s still an exclusivity deal as you made sure you had the only version available for a certain amount of time, and you get the benefit of false narratives being pushed out that the other system is problematic to develop for.

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Going on a mini vacation trip with my friends to a bungalow with all kinds of great stuff. And of course this one is coming with me:

She’s going to have one hell of a good time because there’s a pool, there’s rivers, there are woods. Peace to you all and have a good weekend. :ok_hand:t2:

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650 euros without a disc drive price incoming…it wouldn’t be a surprise with how Sony is pricing their products this generation. :stuck_out_tongue:

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https://x.com/paultassi/status/1829458310245826879?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

Journalists in 2024:

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That was the other way around. The Callisto Protocol devs outsourced a lot of animation and motion capture stuff to Sony. So Sony was paid for their services.