XboxEra Community Hangout |OT13| The Bakers Dozen

Attractiveness of a character in a game should not result in a bunch of complaints and people boycotting the game. It’s embarrassing behavior.

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Exactly. The sex appeal of a character in a game or a movie should have no bearing on whether or not I’ll enjoy the game/movie. And this is exactly what’s happening here and why we get massive downvotes on YouTube.

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Code for Forza Horizon 4 standard edition. (European)

I bought it before I had checked if I had the game actually already, and sure enough I did, lol. Enjoy, and please post here when you’ve redeemed it.

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Claiming that people should consume visual media while completely disregarding whether it appeals to them visually is peak consoomerism.

Maybe it shouldn’t. But it does. It’s not a coincidence that 99% of actors (and other celebrities) just happen to be very attractive. People are instinctively drawn to attractive people. That’s a biological fact.

Of course anyone is free to make a movie or a game with unappealing characters. Good on them. Just don’t expect it to make any money.

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The question isn’t ‘do people want to look at things they like?’. That’s facile.

The question is:

What beauty standards, why, and why are they relevant here?

‘I want to look at sexy women because I like it and therefore all women should be sexy for me’ is rather different from ‘I like sexy women. Wow, shocker. I can also cope with not having them in front of me 24/7’.

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Agreed. People should just ignore a product if they’re not interested.

On the other hand, the complaints and boycott threats are a warning to the developer. They can ignore it at their own risk, of course. But we’ve seen before where that leads.

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Intergalactic’s main character looks pretty conventionally attractive to me, buzzcut and all. The actor she’s based on looks like any model you see on a billboard. It’s just that grifters have worked the chuds up into such a frenzy of believing that Attractive female characters in games are such a rarity these days ( it ain’t. One cursory glance at any Capcom/Snk alone will tell you that’s not a thing) along with weebs who think anything that doesn’t look like an anime character is “ugly” or “woke”. On the flipside I also like Eve’s design and find it funny when the other side claims she is so disrespectful of women when much like the MC of the other game she is ALSO based on a real person ( knew he designed her the character ) model Shin Jae Eun albeit stylized. When it comes to art direction in games I prefer stylized to realism but there is nothing wrong with either and both can coexist.

It’s just funny how heated these arguments get nowadays and makes me hate social media and game pundits and grifters are the ones actively making it harder to discuss these things without extremes. Hell everyone in TLOU 2 is conventionally attractive and could be in any Calvin Kline add despite being survivors in an Apocalypse yet it’s fans are convinced it is so above the “trash” anime games the perves like. It’s all so tiring TBH…

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If it doesn’t appeal to you visually… You simply don’t “consoom” it. Not make YouTube grift videos about “wokeness” or whatever. Which is what is happening, no one is against you or others finding the character unattractive. And ND isn’t in anymore danger than any other major studio owned by a platform holder lmao

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It’s all about timing and I don’t know if the vibe this game is what audience seeks today. I know 80s callback was a thing, but not sure now with comic book movies played it out. Like I said before, TLOU came during the high craze for zombies/apocalypse theme. Not to mention, the sorrow and hopeless vibe resonates with the audience. It’s probably why some marvel fans got tired of goofy comedy and want really f-ed up stuff.

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Must be hard going outside and seeing all these regular looking people

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The problem with Eve is the stupid fan service and being almost naked, it’s just pointless and not what devs should strive for.

No one is interested in watching movies or playing games about regular people doing regular things. That’s kind of the whole point of entertainment, no?

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I see regular people doing irregular things all the time in entertainment. Hell, regular things too.

There’s a big difference between regular and offensively ugly, and it’s going to take offensively ugly to turn me away from something.

I get it, people like attractive things. They put attractive people in commercials, as flight attendants, often working in higher end stores and restaurants. It should be a positive addition not a deal breaker if you’re a reasonable human.

Videogames and movies are either about the gameplay or the story, the attractiveness of a character affects neither of those things. When I played Hellblade 2 I wasn’t mad because the character wasn’t walking around on the beach in a bikini with big bouncing boobs. When I finished Visions of Mana I didn’t care the female characters weren’t made to be hyper sexy anime characters. I watched Killer of the Flower Moon yesterday and I sure as hell wasn’t searching for very attractive women in that movie, yet it’s one of the best movies I watched this year.

If attractive women impact your buying choices I really don’t know what to say, but it’s actually quite sad.

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I think once you realize the same clowns complaining about characters not being attractive are the same ones complaining about minorities as main characters you begin to understand what is really going on here.

If the character isn’t a white male, it better damn well be an attractive female.

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No more pointless than a game having buckets of blood , gore and murder but I don’t see many as up in arms about it as the other. "Cheesecake " has been a thing in media forever and I don’t have a problem with it. So long as it knows what it is. Movies had shit like Barbarella and Faster Pussycat Kill Kill! and it didn’t stop other kinds of movies being made. Devs should be able to strive to create whatever kinds of worlds their imagination ( and budget etc )will allow. Art is art and there will always be people to get offended by it. It’s just extra obnoxious now thanks to Youtube grifters, and other assorted lame internet personalities etc.

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https://x.com/hazzadorgamin/status/1868365247893172344?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

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Jeff is just making stuff up on the spot seemingly. Its been refuted by Nate and others already.

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Battle of Insiders before end of the year? Sounds right.

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