XboxEra Community Hangout |OT12| The Dirty Dozen

As a huge fan of their hardware I’m not a fan of this stuff, but I do get it from a business perspective for them. The console hardware isn’t cutting it and this option should get a lot more people to go check out Xbox (Game Pass). MS is making a new console or whatever they’ll call the rumored console/pc hybrid, so I’m happy. If they can manage to make this all work for all of us…it’s fine.

And until we get to a point where game streaming is identical to my console I will stick with the console.

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Next they just need to get xCloud on par with something like Geforce Now.

If they are advertising like this then I hope they have something planned as I thought it was still in Beta.

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I own both soundtracks on vinyl, and I often listen to it on the road (it’s on Spotify). My kids love it as well, and the games are awesome as well.

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I’d be kinda surprised if it sees any notable upgrades until next gen. But I like being surprised.

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As a big scream fan, this is a great ad

This is just where gaming is going and people need to accept it, GeForce has already shown that cloud gaming can be damn near native in 2024 and xcloud it and xcloud are only going to get better

Hardware ain’t going anywhere anytime soon but gaming is going to become just as platform agnostic as music and movies are

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I think they’d be better off if they stream from regular PC hardware instead, the gamepass library on PC and Xbox is almost similar and other paid games are always available on PC.

Microsoft would probably have to make deals with publishers to bring the games to their store, from there quality should take care of itself, instead of requiring proprietary blades(xbox) they could just chuck in more CPUs, GPUs and have them used for other things.

It’s really good, I find myself just not advancing a conversation just to hear it for a couple of more minutes. I think I’m going to see if the digital version is available to buy on Amazon, as I’m looking to expand what I listen to on my way to work and back.

Nah, not a fan of this commercial. Why would they for one of their gamepass commercials say you don’t need an xbox? I just think very poor message when console sales are struggling

The thing that’s holding them back right now is Series hardware, hell I think they are still using S instead of the X right now

They only need to get streaming to the point where its “good enough” for people, it doesn’t need to be perfect and it doesn’t need to be something that they are constantly adding brand new hardware for

If they use their next gen hardware for the next evolution of xcloud it will likely be a huge upgrade that people will be more than happy with assuming they have the connection speeds required

GeForce is already more or less native for a lot of people

Because opening up their audience to everyone is far more important than selling consoles, console is merely an option now

They’d far rather you subscribe to GPU through Amazon Fire or whatever else than take big losses from their current hardware

and with being able to play your owned games through the cloud sometime this year, the only difference between console and this at that stage will be the quality of the stream

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Think one of my favourite tracks is Cup of Sweetness on the first game’s OST, but the whole thing is just so comfy!

The harsh reality is that each platform knows what the hardware numbers are and where they plateau at. Where can things in gaming grow? PC, mobile, and cloud. The latter two being their biggest potential areas to get actual new customers, the types that would never buy a console.

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I think the problem I have is this constant select devices that they keep doing, first the SSD production and then with Samsung tvs and now Amazon firesticks.

It’s incredibly limited way to go about it and keeps excluding a large amount of products/companies. I get that they need to build some capacity with the hardware constraints they created, but I still don’t think Xcloud is available on LG tvs yet.

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Yeah it is a shame but like you said, it might be a capacity problem, they aren’t equipped to take in everyone at once like that id imagine

There’s also the aspect of their partners wanting to sell their newest hardware, Amazon will have wanted to sell their newest sticks

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But hardware moves fast, a technological breakthrough like hardware raytracing could happen 1 years into a console cycle and you’d have to wait many years to have parity with other streaming services.

1080p60/4k60 will be good enough for the majority, but there will be a hardcore section that will need 4k/120/240fps at max fidelity. It would be good to have all bases covered. So, in that case they will have a decision to make.

It’s Series X blades, they confirmed that as think it allows it to host one Series game or 4 One S games.

Not sure it uses the Series X profile for all games though…

That’s what I mean, they might be Series X blades but they are running the S versions of games

and even X at this stage is way behind what Geforce is using for their cloud stuff, so next gen hardware should be a massive boost to cloud performance

Oh im not saying Xbox should be complacent on this stuff, just that for many people, once cloud gets to “close enough” to console that will be enough for a significant amount of people

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Agree for the most part, but not a fan of the messaging of not needing an xbox. However, I get it since this ad is targetted more towards people who manly game on cloud and possibly mobile or might be intrigued to stream gamepass due to owning a fire stick

It certainly is an issue but it’s good that they have started finally with TV streaming. Game streaming to phones was never going to go places as console games are best played on TV screens. This should also allow them to quickly scale and through experience know how best to handle next gen. I’m guessing they will be opening Game Pass streaming to as much streaming vendors as they can. Boosteroid and Nvidia GeForce incoming.

I think it’s less about the power of the box and more the inefficiency of the encode/decode that old hardware has tied them to.