Oh damn, well, that explains it.
Ah well, it’s aight, nothing too amazing imo. This would be fine for 20 or 25 bucks to be honest. But for the full price? Absolutely no way.
The 3080 I got a few years ago for a few hundred dollars after selling my 3070 is still way ahead than what the consoles produce and it isn’t even funny. I’m still baffled a console manufacturer still hasn’t been able to make a deal with Nvidia. With all the GPUs MS is buying to run AI surely they could have made a deal with them to get them next gen at a lower cost.
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Nvidia is a business first and foremost that makes their money from selling into the AI/ML markets. There’s no reason for them to dilute their margins by striking deals with console makers. I’m surprised they even make and market consumer GPUs at this point.
I mean, their consumer market was alright before we got the recent boom for AI/ML which is now something like 80% or more I think of their global sales which is insane. They still have 90% of the PC market to themselves though so for sure they’ll keep dominating there and overcharging us for their high end GPUs, although I have to admit the Super cards they released recently are quite decently priced imo.
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Wrong again:
https://x.com/Chris_Dring/status/1757841692885991831?s=20
https://x.com/Chris_Dring/status/1758227987202265543?s=20
https://x.com/RiotRMD/status/1762519178601226735?s=20
Currently PS5 is tracking to do numbers similar to PS4 at best, thus, it is stagnating as analists pointed out.
And do you realize Nintendo had to combine their markest right? Previos gen with WII and DS they had over 200M+ Units combined.
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I have learned that Pete has his own way of looking at things 
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The argument for consoles stagnating is that they’re just not growing their number of users, they can gain new users but also lose some, it ends up being almost the same number since the 90s somehow. They grew the money they generate for sure. They are not dying. That’s just an extreme and stupid “projection” for now.
The thing is that’s just fine, they don’t need to grow much as long as there’s a big enough base of users, because not everyone wants or can get a console. That’s fine, the problem is companies want to see growth growth growth, and the console model is getting more expensive by the day, that’s where problems potentially arise and they want to go beyond the console.
The flaw in your assumption is that you think there are 200m individual console users when industry reporters and even a few developers have been pointing out that that the entire console market has shrunk. A good portion of the consumers are multi-homers.
Respectfully speaking, you need to adjust your understanding and stop looking at the trends through a ‘console’ paradigm.
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Console sales are at best staying the same despite costs going up constantly while other markets like mobile and PC are expanding
and the market isn’t like years ago where you could heavily discount your console years into the gen, console production costs aren’t going down anymore, the days of $100 ps2’s are long gone
I said it right when Jensen Huang unveiled the 20xx RTX cards in 2018 - this is the real next gen in technology. If cutting edge tech is important to you, consoles are just the wrong product.
a 2080 might be even cheaper than buying a console, a Pro console 4 years later and paying the online taxes for years 
Started with Ni No Kuni. Been wanting to play that for a long time. In fact I got it on Switch a few years ago super cheap too, but I barely play on it, so yeah.
I’m loving the art style of this already, shouldn’t be surprising since it’s Ghibli. Starting on normal and hopefully I won’t have to lower it to easy.
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All im going to say is that come Fall 2028 when PlayStation 6 launches and ends PlayStation 5 at 110M+ consoles sold while Nintendo goes on to break the all time record with the Switch and then between March 2025 through 2028, sees the Switch 2 pick up right where the original Switch left off while at the same time sees Xbox Series not be able to outsell Xbox One or even better between Fall 2026 through 2028, sees the next Xbox console(s) sell 10-15M if they’re lucky, maybe just maybe people here will actually consider that it wasn’t Sony, Nintendo or the console industry that was dying or stagnating or flat-lining, maybe just maybe it was only Microsoft and the Xbox brand.
But hey, to each their own.
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Sales of plastic boxes is not the metric to be concerned with. You’re too hyperfocused on the wrong thing.
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It’s not “people here” when people here are literally giving you evidence from people who are actually in the industry and have access to real data.
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I don’t know why you’re even turning a ‘consoles are stagnating’ discussion into an opportunity to crap on Xbox. Nobody is talking about Xbox when they are telling you that you’re wrong lol.
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I have no reason to crap on Xbox because Microsoft is doing it themselves. All im saying is that maybe it’s the not console market industry that is dying but just Xbox consoles. Sony is right where they should be and Nintendo is dominating but yet, the console market/industry is dying as a whole? Come on man.
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I don’t know what @peter42O is really arguing against, maybe he’s seeing people saying consoles are dying and thinking that’s what everyone else also means when pointing out consoles have been stagnating from a userbase perspective. I certainly don’t think people here mean that, and the analysts who point that out also aren’t saying that either… There’s a whole lot of difference between the people saying consoles are dying and the people pointing out the market for console users has been limited to similar numbers for two decades.
I can admit that the console market isn’t growing but it isn’t meant to. Consoles are for those who have always played on consoles and prefer consoles. It’s the same people every generation. But to say that in general that it’s dying when Sony and Nintendo are doing extremely well, I just don’t see it.