XboxEra Community Hangout |OT11| It Goes To 11!

IMO, $500 is too high of an entry point when you are trying to move forward a base of 30+ million subscribers and cost reductions aren’t as much of a thing.

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I don’t think that it is. After the first two years of Covid, more people wanted the Series X and were willing to pay for it but could only find the Series S. Also, it’s about the games. Always has been and always will be. You have the games, you can easily turn around anything. And Microsoft would definitely have the games. As for the subscribers, they would still be able to stream the games on Series X/S consoles so they wouldn’t need to jump to next gen right away if they didn’t want to.

I’m not a fan of the two console approach especially when the specs aren’t identical. Just make one freaking console. It’s always worked for everyone. If the console is great, the games are there and with Microsoft having this entire generation to build up the Xbox brand, they would easily sell out the console for $500 at launch and years to come because people are going to want to play these games. And you’ll get some PlayStation fans who aren’t hardcore and see all this stuff plus what they missed out on with Series X/S and they’ll have even more reason to jump in.

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I think you are likely in a priveleged position when it comes to having the money to buy this stuff and your feelings here are not necessarily in line with a large chunk of the market.

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It’s worked a lot better for Sony since around 2013. :rofl: Like, a lot better. To the point that Microsoft continuing “business as usual” is just a recipe for continued market share decline because Sony is already so far out ahead. Things like the Series S, Play Anywhere, and Game Pass are attempts to shake things up and expand the market. Fair play to you for liking or disliking various initiatives but Microsoft does not have the luxury of pretending it’s still 2007.

My income is under $15K a year but my costs/responsibilities are minimal and I try my best to always live within my means as I don’t want any debt or issues or problems.

Also, most gaming stores always do trade in deals where you trade in the older console towards the new one which I would think when it comes to Xbox, majority would automatically do because they have backwards compatibility and whatnot so why keep the old console when you can get the new one?

I just don’t think the two console approach works all that well because after a while, once the novelty wares off of the Series S, if you also own a PlayStation 5, you’re not going to bother playing games on Series S because why would you unless it’s a day one Game Pass game? You’re going to want the better stuff because if not, then what’s even the point?

Having ONE single console at a great price ($500) can easily get people into the eco-system if they see the games, services and content is there. Besides, with Game Pass, you’re saving $60 a pop by not having to buy Microsoft’s first party games so three games in and you basically even out the cost of the $200 difference between Series S and X.

It’s already been down to $350 during sales for Black Friday and down to $399 by MS themselves for December

$300 in 3 years time will absolutely happen, unless there’s some massive turnaround on the popularity of the Xbox hardware but I don’t see it changing that much

During a sale, yes, $300 when not on sale?

$400 at most.

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Might not be $300 by MS themselves but I think it will be a common price by many outlets by that point

If I’m wrong I’ll change my profile pic to anything of your choosing :philwins:

I’m seeing people on Twitter responding to the Sloth thread about the Xbox Next and some want it to be a hybrid. I say fuck that, let’s not do that at all. Keep it affordable but also make it powerful. Let Nintendo do the whole hybrid thing, but Xbox not. Make a handheld separate from the console, all fine, but leave the console alone.

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https://x.com/cromwelp/status/1735692579830661175?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

I don’t know what this guy is talking about. We don’t buy games at all. He must have mistaken with someone…

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https://twitter.com/Knoebelbroet/status/1735645256782057533

Doesn’t sound great for Platinum’s upcoming works…

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I’m really enjoying The Finals despite not having a premade team. Hopefully, the devs add a mode more friendly to solo players. I would love a 5v5 or 6v6 objective mode.

That dude never struck me as honest. An all out asshole that people give too much credit for Platinum’s greats.

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RPGs sell good on Xbox, in fact I think some sell better than PS, rate relative to install base of course.

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I guess there’s always the possibility that it does turn out to be their mid gen refresh, but I hope it isn’t. Phil made it clear they won’t have one, that XSX is the mid gen refresh. And these things are planned years in advance, so it really has to be the next gen for them.

During the ABK trial Phil said they expect next gen in 2028, so if they were to release a Pro in 2026, it would only be for two years until next gen starts. On top of that they have XSX and XSS, four consoles, that is way too much.

So right now the most likely scenario seems that their plan for 2028 changed because they saw Sony’s Pro plans. Sony gets to “win” the power race for two years and then Xbox starts their next gen. Does make you wonder what will happen to XSX and especially XSS.

I’m seeing 14.33Tflops numbers for PS5 Pro. Of course there would be more under the hood like upscaling and RT stuff, but still, that’s not such a huge number compared to Series X.

Lol. That can’t be right.

https://x.com/_tom_henderson_/status/1735723559232716847?s=46&t=O_AGT9SEnlptKOF_2SxtqQ

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I don’t care what anyone says, I wish MS would’ve snached up Platinum whil he was still there.

I dunno, he’s pretty much yet to make a bad game though, not even once. From Resident Evil 2 on. Pretty much created the “character action” sub genre with DMC. I get that nobody makes games alone but we should give credit where it’s due.

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