Xbox Wire: Xbox Series X|S are the only next gen consoles to have full RDNA2

[Biggzy (Hassan)]

I mean, there was always a reason why Microsoft kept hammering the point about VRS etc in all their marketing material.

[LifeForms]

@Biggzy

I mean, there was always a reason why Microsoft kept hammering the point about VRS etc in all their marketing material.

VRS will be quite important for the seriesS later in the gen. Its 4tflops will punch above there wieght thanks to VRS and directML.

[PCPrincipal]

Just Read the Xbox Wire article

[DrDeckard]

@PCPrincipal

Just Read the Xbox Wire article

Gold statement right there. This backs up more than anything that the ps5isnt true RDNA 2.

[giovane (giovanealex)]

@PCPrincipal

Just Read the Xbox Wire article

It’s awesome how well-planned Microsoft’s strategies for Xbox have been. In the long term, this will integrate even more Xbox/Windows 10 gaming development.

[commanderbuck]

@LifeForms

BOom!

Woof, that’s going to hurt some feelings.

[LifeForms]

Digital foundry have been leaving little “full RDNA2” on xbox seriesX|S and not on PS5 breadcrumbs. Its something they have done in the past when they have known things before the public.

[LucasTaves]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

Every other thing yes! But still skeptical of the Infinte cache.

Nov 10 is not far away. A mention of cache size would clear up all doubts.

I stand corrected. There is indeed no infinity cache on SX.

I was thinking of something else but it’s literally a 128mb on the die. Ms did touted they had a good deal of cache in the SX soc but not that much.

[Dom]

@anonymous

Pretty certain that PS5 doesn’t support DirectX in any manner, so that makes sense. That is savage

yep, there is your thinly veiled damage control post like you do with everything on this forum regarding PS5.

[Staffy]

So long story short, but correct me if I’m wrong…this could mean PS5 versions of multiplatform games could be potentially missing features like the shading, that Xbox will have?

[DeoGame]

@anonymous

Is it bad news? Part of the AMD architecture is DirectX 12 Ultimate exclusive to Xbox/PC. Seeing the first party output by the internal Sony team, this is a big bag of nothing. Other than “maybe” the ML piece, which could make a difference later

Smart marketing though. That’s like claiming 8K on the Series and PS5 boxes. Yeah, right.

Falconeer is 8k iirc.

[anonymous]

@Dom

yep, there is you thinly veiled damage control post like you do with everything on this forum regarding PS5

No damage control. It’s just a matter of semantics, and wording. There are certain features that the PS5 will not support, and the biggest may be the ML stuff. We will see if AMD is able to provide some kind of DLSS support, but they are WAY behind Nvidia. MS Marketing is good at twisting words, like Sony has with the PS5 HD.

The Xbox marketing really reminds me of Sega. I’d be interested to know if MS reference some of Tom Kalinski’s old material

[Staffy]

@foxlife

These technologies: DirectX Raytracing, Mesh Shaders, Sampler Feedback and Variable Rate Shading

I am gonna look some of those up. But those sound like significant features.

[Daniel]

@anonymous

The Xbox marketing really reminds me of Sega. I’d be interested to know if MS reference some of Tom Kalinski’s old material

Remember when believing in generations was a marketing tool

[TavishHill]

Larry Hryb (majornelson)

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@anonymous

No damage control. It’s just a matter of semantics, and wording. There are certain features that the PS5 will not support, and the biggest may be the ML stuff. We will see if AMD is able to provide some kind of DLSS support, but they are WAY behind Nvidia. MS Marketing is good at twisting words, like Sony has with the PS5 HD.

The Xbox marketing really reminds me of Sega. I’d be interested to know if MS reference some of Tom Kalinski’s old material

AMD’s DLSS will pretty much be DirectML based, I believe. I thought they would come up with their own raytracing backend, but looks like it’s simply the case that RDNA2 pretty much partnered with MS for having DirectX Raytracing as the official backend for it. And that would also mean DX12U features like Mesh Shaders and DXR, which obviously PS5 wouldn’t get cuz it’s MS tech.

However I found an article saying PS5 will be getting a type of DLSS too, but yeah, it won’t be DirectML based, obviously.

https://twitter.com/PSUdotcom/status/1321504565326471168

[TavishHill]

@foxlife

These technologies: DirectX Raytracing, Mesh Shaders, Sampler Feedback and Variable Rate Shading

That is not accurate. What you are referring to is their DX12U features, which is different than RDNA2 feature set. RDNA2’s main features are perf/watt, RT and VRS.

[Zappy5]

@anonymous

Is it bad news? Part of the AMD architecture is DirectX 12 Ultimate exclusive to Xbox/PC. Seeing the first party output by the internal Sony team, this is a big bag of nothing. Other than “maybe” the ML piece, which could make a difference later

Smart marketing though. That’s like claiming 8K on the Series and PS5 boxes. Yeah, right.

I think it means the PS5 doesn’t have hardware support for VRS etc…,basically the leak re PS5 and based on 2019 hardware seems correct…Series X is more powerful and more advanced.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@LucasTaves

I stand corrected. There is indeed no infinity cache on SX.

I was thinking of something else but it’s literally a 128mb on the die. Ms did touted they had a good deal of cache in the SX soc but not that much.

About that, Richard in his article mentioned 72 MB of cache for XSX. But now, even he says that something got changed. Wonder what🤔

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@Staffy

So long story short, but correct me if I’m wrong…this could mean PS5 versions of multiplatform games could be potentially missing features like the shading, that Xbox will have?

In theory, yes. But don’t judge the final performance just like this. Wait for DF reviews.

There is no doubt nin theory. But anything can happen in reality.