For additional context, here is the current list of all known PS5-only games, including VR and announced but not released too. Yes, it’s an extremely short list. Only 20 titles. I don’t see the PS6-only game list being larger.
Curious if Astro will hit pc as that one itself is really a nostalgia play
Exactly, Game Pass alone isn’t enough and we know Game Pass being only on Xbox consoles and PC isn’t a decision made by Microsoft, if they could they would have it available on PS5 right now as well.
I am good at Xbox for the next years, Xbox series X is a great console and I have gamepass
But in 4-5 years, if the unified pc-xbox ecosystem intensify, I will not take an Xbox again (or the portable Xbox if it has a steam store)
That will hurt the number of core players at Xbox, but ultimately they will have more consumers
At least the studios should be fine, that’s the most important to me
Looking at the cost of the PS5 Pro and the fact that they’re already making a loss on the Series consoles, makes this obvious, no?
I see that some recent Jez tweets have caught the attention of folks and “new” articles are being written about it too.
https://x.com/JezCorden/status/1867407921199362372
But really, this is nothing new. We here all know this. Case by case, all that. Not permanent anymore, but absolutely timed I’m sure. They will want to launch the next Xbox with games that are only available on devices supporting Game Pass or cloud.
And then we probably slowly but surely move to day one releases and after the next Xbox? That’s not even relevant right now. Give me a great new Xbox next gen console, with all the necessary gaming centric features and we’re good, dev support is good.
Sony doesn’t have permanent exclusives anymore either, we might not their get first party games on our Xbox anytime soon, but PC will get them, and right now not day one, but that day will come too.
I don’t buy it, i just think this is a hare brained scheme of sorts to undermine the current userbase.
Also Jez has been proven wrong at times, so take it with a grain of salt as usual. Cause if he is proven right then Xbox is not living after next gen as some hope nor will our libraries as Satya clearly gives no care about that as his greeds is evident.
I can’t, for the live of me, understand why some here and prolific xbox users think this helps its consoles when all it could do is jeoperdize the identity of a decades long history.
I am concern overall cause i all see is ramifactions that could very well backfire if higher ups continues to message the way they do without trying to act like console users are the the backseats and do not matter to them compared to playstation and Nintendo, who will continue to undermine their efforts with exclusives and third party deals.
Can someone at least tell me if there is some kinda light at the end of this turbulent tunnel? Cause i just feel like no one up on Xbox cares enough about xbox consoles and its userbase, while the ones that do are only far and between, and i have a feeling like this whole thing will backfire horribly if they put a legacy title on an opposing competitor. Cause i just don’t see how that would be a positive thing for the hardware ecosystem at that point if it were to happen.
Sorry, this whole year has been tiring as an Xbox only user and i feel like the lack of security that Higher Ups have been doing have done more stress and harm for the platform itself compared to the multiplatform approach that can work if they acknowledge that some things are not worth porting over for the sake of short term profits.
Also i think once GTA 6 is out is were we will see whether their gamble paid off or not. Cause that will be a turning point for casuals to hope ship to new consoles.
Sorry, but I dont get that at all. This year has been the best year for being an Xbox only gamer. They have had the best support they have every had.
It doesn’t come close to the OG Xbox days for me when the console had real exclusives from its own 1st parties and was looking to get real console exclusives from SEGA, and Fromsoftware. Where XBox was focused on the console and transforming internet gaming on consoles and XBox was the king of 3rd party ports.
Not pleased to read endless speculation on what games are going to SONY and Nintendo with nothing coming back in the return and speciation of Xbox pulling out of console gaming Ect.
I’m enjoying my time with Xbox but wish they had never bought ABK
I don’t get how people conclude that a game being on PC doesn’t count as exclusives.
It never happens in the old days when Halo was an Xbox exclusive even though it was on PC the same when for Fable, and Gears Of War. It seemed to be used to bash the Xbox One from SONY fans when Phil looked to get more Xbox games on the PC.
I don’t get why some people count the PC as Microsoft or Xbox. When it’s an open platform where anyone can make their own hardware or software and where once SONY had their PC division making PC hardware
And going forward I wouldn’t be surprised if the likes of Google, and Steam aren’t looking at making their own OS to rival Windows. Google cleaned up the smartphone and tablet sectors they’re well able to make an OS for the PC if they put their minds to it
I agree, they changed way too much after Activision and i just don’t see how they can keep being ignorant of their consumers for this long.
Maybe, but the concern is there still and it does nothing in regards to the current messaging that its having. Its not really encouraging to an hardware only user when the platform holder is looking for ways to make more money while ignoring your audience even with a game pass incentive, i just think that while things are good now i just fear its just the eye of the storm and we are entering the storm once more. That’s all BRit, its an opinion of mine and i respect your own take on it.
I do hope am wrong on this but my gut tells me this is a mistake in some way and it will have some form of ramification to come along with it, like canceling latidude or another in favor of winning back costumer trust and confidence. Cause i do think its unwise to be oblivious of the going ons within your platform.
Also, if Sony acquires From Software company then Xbox is truly screwed with no way out unless they take drastic measures. Cause i doubt Sony will let their games be made for the platform.
Things have changed Xbox wants to reach 3billion plus gamers and that is not possible with consoles. This is the point behind the “THIS IS AN XBOX” campaign. Think of Xbox as a digital platform that can be supported on any device. Xbox is doing what Steam is doing only from the other direction, where Steam started on PC and is expanding to other devices Xbox started on consoles and is doing likewise. I think the light will come once Xbox is able to define their platform. Right now, it feels it’s all over the place but once well-defined the situation will be better. To a certain extent Xbox games going on other platforms brings more eyes to them and I have to wonder if Xbox games dominate the PlayStation platform doesn’t that hurt Sony more.
That’s not feasible whatsover. If they think that will happen then they are chasing butterflies in an neverending field. Its admirable but its just not actually possible even with their current strategy. The only way for that to work is via mobile and pc not other consoles from rivals that are dimishing the Xbox brand by having more exclusives. At least Nintendo is not trying to kill Xbox at the very least, so they earn a lot more respect in that degree.
I don’t know man, that’s the concern am having. Also, rome wasn’t build in a day and if that was the case the way Xbox has been doing this is wrong and filled with bad pr statements and messages when their actual target audience is right in front of them.
I fear they are doing this as some way to grasp a t straws and see if it lands , but are they truly willing to destroy their own platform and brand image to get there? Am starting to think they are and are willing to destroy millions of Xbox digital libraries to get there. Cause Phil may say they will respect investments made but given how this year turned itself around i just can’t place my full trusty that they won’t do such a thing and that scares me to a considerable level.
Also they need to content with Steam and Nintendo once their new hardware comes into the market, which can devalue their product even more so than before. That’s why i think they need ot make something that actually encourages current users that their investment truly matters and that they will need to place exclsuives for you to play in order to do that.
There is one platform built off exclusives and it’s Nintendo. Nowhere else is the main focus anything but black hole GaaS titles for building up your player base. Xbox and PlayStation are making more money than ever, these changes are to chase higher profits and not to survive.
So all the digital libraries from either Xbox and Playstation are in danger because of these moves? Or to you think they will try to reel them in with actual benefits for their consumers?
How are the digital libraries in danger. They are not shutting them down and heck they are trying to move them all to PC as well.
Xbox is, but not Playstation from what i have seen so far whatsover.
Chasing butterflies you say. I think they would know what is realistic and isn’t also didn’t they say they have over 500 million players now. In any case it’s their decision. I don’t think you can say it’s feasible without any evidence seeing this has never been done before. Rome wasn’t built in a day yes, but Xbox has been on this road since 2018. In my opinion like I have said defining their hardware is the issue now. Games no longer being exclusive is not the big matter. Did you know that over 18 thousand games have released this year on Steam, there is a saturation of content that exclusivity is just a way to harm yourself. Steam does not have all the players, there are billions on PC and Steam has about 250 million. There is still a large audience on PC to cater to.
PlayStation do remasters and remakes so you just buy your games again next-gen. No need to worry about your library.
That’s the problem, i just think that’s not worth it overall, to kkep buying the same thing when you can only buy it once on Xbox/Steam/Epic/Gog and potentially Nintendo if they do not make the decision to force you to buy backward compatibility.