Xbox Game Studios |OT9| How many games would a game studio make if a game studio could make games?

I don’t mean that they can spawn a remaster at will I am just saying Xbox should at least plan on having at least 1-2 first party games each half since this year has been dry first party-wise.

And for example Gears or Fable. Gears 6 is going to be a few years away so why not have a small team work on remastering the Gears series. Same thing with Fable since it will be a while before we get Fable. That way it brings hype before the new release.

Agreed. Call of Duty is a great example of games that could get remastered especially a lot of the older games in the series.

Here’s me playing Saints Row having a good time checking everything off on the map while listening to podcasts enjoying my time. I must be very simple to please or something haha. Two Point Campus, Cult of the Lamb and Tinykin have all been epic too.

A remake on TLOUP1’s caliber is not really a cash grab. It is significantly enhanced over the base game and even remastered. The remastered edition is still very good and included with PS+ Essential and is worth playing if someone wanted to jump in but didn’t want to shell out $70 for now. The price is very arguably too high given that and especially bc it lacks the multiplayer, but I would definitely not call it phoned in, a cash grab, or creatively bankrupt. I was kind of a hater to it before I saw more and more comparisons and DF’s video on it.

Remakes like this can have a lot of good effects on a studio. It’s Naughty Dog’s first PS5 native title, it gives them something smaller in scope to work directly with the hardware and test their limits on performance profiling, visual density, real-time rendering quality cutscenes, etc, and all the other things like dualsense gimmicks.

Releasing ahead of a big transmedia release like the HBO show is also good for the brand at large (TLOU and PS).

Imagine in a world where Halo Infinite’s Slipspace wasn’t seemingly tech bankrupt as they say and 343i created an ODST sized game or a Halo 3 anniversary remake for X|S before coming out with Halo Infinite. I’m sure plenty of fans would be excited to play it (especially given it would be on Game Pass and not $70). Or if Bethesda released a Fallout 3 remake in Creation Engine 2 before the Amazon show.

The assets created from previous games (like TLOU P2) can be used to speed up the remake to share a similar bar of quality, while even better assets can be made to push the envelope which can then be reused in future games (like a TLOU P3 or the Factions game). The same thing could be said for a Fallout remake, Gears remake collection, etc. These things aren’t all just a waste of time and energy as it can be made like others pointed out in tandem with a new entry. And the work done here can speed up work done later, while keeping the IP fresh within the market leading up to the new entry.

In general, I’m glad BC enhancements are a thing and would rather have consumer friendly readily-available options like that over forced remakes/remasters/collections (cough, Nintendo), but I won’t be mad about them either if done exceptionally well. I loved revisiting Halo 2 after so many years with Halo 2 Anniversary.

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That’s true there is a finite set of resources but remakes wouldn’t require a large team and it wouldn’t prevent developers to work on a new IP unless it is a smaller studio.

And sure backwards compatibility is nice but the graphics just don’t hold up for a lot of the classic Xbox/Bethesda games. I just think it would be awesome to see games like Fallout New Vegas get remastered into Unreal Engine 5.

99% of my opinion on this subject is based entirely on the fact that i want fallout remakes

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If they did the expectation would be that it was DLC. At DLC prices.

It does take a larger team to do genuine remakes. The quick releases are more like remasters which Xbox already got with OneX and SeriesX update patches.

For further evidence of what sort of team a genuine remake takes, you dont have to look far, just look at KOTOR Remake. It was announced in 2021-09. Still nowhere on the release schedule. It even had to be given to an entirely different studio. Has everyone forgotten this already?

I agree. No interest in remasters but remakes like REmake2, im all for them.

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I don’t think it needs to be such a controversial topic.

If it doesn’t impact the main studio’s pipelines or a support studio that’s similar to BluePoint wants to do it, then more power to them.

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There’s three levels of remake:

  • Remaster. Same game, mostly same assets, with cleaned up image, better settings and performance. Ex. The Last of Us Remastered, Kingdoms of Amalur ReReckoning

  • Glorified remaster. Same game, with remade assets; textures, animations, and even audio. Tend to look significantly better, but essentially it’s the same game. Ex. The Last of Us Part 1, Demon’s Souls, Halo 2 Anniversary, Gears Ultimate.

  • Remake. Actually remade game. It’s essentially a new game, more like an adaptation based on an old game. Ex. Resident Evil 2.

KOTOR is a remake. Those take probably as much time and resources as a new game. Remasters and glorified remastered are the more easy cash-grabs.

Better if people specificy what level of remake they mean they want. I personally am not a fan of the first two if it’s related to modern and just as playable games.

No. You are using confusing terms. Your Remaster Level 3 is what everyone else considers “Remake”. Your level 1 and 2 is what everyone else considers “Remaster”.

Hence why I (and some others) say only remasters are the quick hits and the genuine Remakes are the longer more involved remakes.

I’m really not saying anything different than you here. I probably worded it wrong but we have the same idea. And the thing is, it is confusing because there’s no terms for it so the term Remake becomes interchangeable.

I wonder why The Outer Worlds and other games from the Xbox One generation haven’t gotten Series X/S upgrades. You would think that Microsoft would get a small team and simply go through all of the games released last generation by their owned studios including Bethesda and upgrade them one by one.

KOTOR Remake being announced a year ago doesn’t mean that it’s anywhere near it’s release. Some games get announced years and years in advance and in a few cases, a decade or more. Obviously, Aspyr wasn’t up to the task but Saber Interactive has been working with them since the Spring as the support studio but are now the lead.

For someone like me who’s missed out on a lot of older games, I welcome remakes because they’re basically a brand new game for me setup with today’s standards.

Also, just because KOTOR Remake has development issues doesn’t mean that Microsoft remaking a game or two would have the same results. REmake2/3/4 have been or will be amazing. Max Payne 1 and 2 being remade should be like Max Payne 3 but even better. The only remake that looks bad is Prince of Persia Sands of Time but it’s Ubisoft, so not that much of a surprise there.

No one is saying to remake every game but get the top 3 or 5 and remake them for today’s gaming generation because most people including myself aren’t going back to play old games that look, run and play poorly compared to today’s games.

Excited to hop back into grounded. Haven’t played it in a year.

But its not interchangeable as the commonly accepted definitions of Remake is different than Remaster. It will be easier to use the commonly accepted vernacular. At least now we know where some of the discussion confusion derives from.

Based on these comments I ended up looking up Fallout 76 on Twitter and was surprised to see there were a ton of Japanese tweets about the game. I googled Fallout 76 Japan and found this article about how Fallout 76 is incredibly popular in Japan.

I looked up 76 on the Japanese most played charts and found the game was the 11th most played game on Xbox in Japan.

All this to say, I get pretty tired of seeing not to be named people try and say so and so game is “dead” because it doesnt meet what you want or doesnt match a certain number you want to see in your specific country.

https://www.microsoft.com/ja-jp/store/most-played/games/xbox?source=lp

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yo fo76 is pretty fun. runs like ass on my xbox sx and pc.

lol

dude what’s your beef? It doesn’t run smooth for me, but i think the game is fun.

The whole thing now is whether to call releases like Halo 2 Anniversary or Gears Ultimate or TLOU1 remakes or remasters. Those releases are what causes the confusion.