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[CryOn]

It’s actually amazing how tone deaf Zenimax Online is about the whole combat change. The core playerbase just vanished and refuse to play ESO. If they don’t reverse change the combat in PTS week 3 we could all see the death of ESO. I’m not even exaggerating. It’s like a ghost town at some places, especially in Craglorn.

[BRiT]

@CryOn

It’s actually amazing how tone deaf Zenimax Online is about the whole combat change

What was the push for the combat change in the first place – was there some new addon sections that required rebasing the entire combat damage, otherwise it wouldn’t have worked well – was there some new mechanic they’re focusing on instead? Like I don’t get why they were even looking at it under the hood to revamp.

[TheBrightestSun]

@CryOn

It’s actually amazing how tone deaf Zenimax Online is about the whole combat change. The core playerbase just vanished and refuse to play ESO. If they don’t reverse change the combat in PTS week 3 we could all see the death of ESO. I’m not even exaggerating. It’s like a ghost town at some places, especially in Craglorn.

What happened?

[CryOn]

@BRiT

What was the push for the combat change in the first place – was there some new addon sections that required rebasing the entire combat damage, otherwise it wouldn’t have worked well – was there some new mechanic they’re focusing on instead? Like I don’t get why they were even looking at it under the hood to revamp.

Nerf in weaving, heavy DOT and spammable play style. DMG drop around 40k. Combat is dumbed down and still harder to play because of the DMG drop.

@TheBrightestSun that’s the reason.

[KakkaKarrotKake]

@TheBrightestSun

What happened?

From what iv read, they made some combat changes on a test server that aren’t final and the community is whining about it, usual gamer things

[TheBrightestSun]

@KakkaKarrotKake

From what iv read, they made some combat changes on a test server that aren’t final and the community is whining about it, usual gamer things

Well I do see a drop in Steam charts

[CryOn]

@KakkaKarrotKake

From what iv read, they made some combat changes on a test server that aren’t final and the community is whining about it, usual gamer things

It’s not just that. Rich posted this right before the PTS:

https://twitter.com/SlashLurk/status/1545786200342110209?t=VNCpBkGtYMAVf0p7I93Ppw&s=19

ZOS even said they tested the whole combat change. The playerbase tested it and now only 0,1% can finish the hardest content. No way they tested it lmao.

[DARK-PARADISE]

@CryOn

It’s actually amazing how tone deaf Zenimax Online is about the whole combat change. The core playerbase just vanished and refuse to play ESO. If they don’t reverse change the combat in PTS week 3 we could all see the death of ESO. I’m not even exaggerating. It’s like a ghost town at some places, especially in Craglorn.

343 finally have competition

you know I’m joking

[BRiT]

@CryOn

Nerf in weaving, heavy DOT and spammable play style. DMG drop around 40k. Combat is dumbed down and still harder to play because of the DMG drop.

@TheBrightestSun that’s the reason.

Yeah, I know the combat got nerfed big time.

I don’t see why they were revamping the combat system at all. Usually changes like this are only done because of introducing some new mechanism that they want people to focus on instead.

[CryOn]

@BRiT

Yeah, I know the combat got nerfed big time. I don’t see why they were revamping the combat system at all.

ESO’s biggest weakness is the floaty and clunky combat system. A lot of new player dislike it. But I really don’t know how this change will fix it.

[TheBrightestSun]

@DARK-PARADISE

343 finally have competition

you know I’m joking

Or are you?

[jfsolo]

@Daniel

Why are people so obnoxious about games they don’t want to play or like, cool you don’t like the game, it doesn’t suddenly mean Microsoft are pivoting to these sorts of games now.

Game pass and frankly Xbox needs these sorts games if they really want those 3B gamers. I can see this sort of game being great on Twitch with an audience that can interact.

Not everything is going to be made for you and that is ok you will recover from it as there are more than enough games to play that come from 1st party AND 3rd party.

I don’t believe a single soul who says they don’t have any games to play.

Thank you, this borderline hostility and shot taking at games that simply aren’t for them as well as the shots at Xbox in general is so juvenile .

[Staffy]

What did they change about the combat in TESO?

[TheBrightestSun]

@CryOn

ESO’s biggest weakness is the floaty and clunky combat system. A lot of new player dislike it. But I really don’t know how this change will fix it.

Let’s see if people return if they roll back the changes.

[CryOn]

@TheBrightestSun

Let’s see if people return if they roll back the changes.

Some people will, some people won’t. One carry group just closed their discord channel.

The playerbase is just fed up with ZOS. For example:

• so many bugs are still not fixed
• PvP is still the same, no new content since Morrowind (lag got fixed in PC NA because of new servers, that was the reason for a 4 year old problem)
• after every big update they nerf the best set or skill. Maybe buff or change some older sets/skills ?
• the monetization is horrible
• you can get banned for the most random stuff like tea bagging or your username.
• overland content is too easy and they don’t want to add hard mode for whatever reason.

[anon74828371]

QuakeCon

[Joe_Sinister1 (Joe_Sinister)]

@KakkaKarrotKake

ADF story was always going to make it or break it, glad to see its worked out for them

I find the visual style kind of annoying but i’ll give it a go for sure

I don’t remember him slagging anyone off but I could be wrong

These are simple business decisions and one that he actually regretted but if xbox turned his game down it’s because they disliked his pitch, not because of some petty grudge

He shit on xbox fans every chance he got while promoting Lawbreakers. I maintain it was just him thinking he could get more hype around his game by playing into console war shit, sadly the people he was attempting to appeal to didn’t buy his game.

[Deus (Encyclopaedia Ludica)]

Deadline Hollywood

[Proven]

Kinda hilarious how Grounded is one of the biggest Xbox games given all the negativity surrounding it from “hardcore” gamers

[DARK-PARADISE]

I DID NOT think Grounded will be one of the Xbox IP that gets transmedia treatment. Obsidian, the Grounded team specifically, really did so much with so little and in a short amount of time, huge congrats to them.