Is it one sided though? Purely cinemantics supposed to be Indiana Jones, Compulsion’s game and Hellblade.
Inferiority complex
Some people think what Sony does should be the standard and all companies should do it , And the biggest problem is that some people think that the numbers achieved by Sony games are high , But if you search and dig deeper, you will find that these games hardly make huge profits due to the high production cost and Sony knows that well
This is the reason why they have many service game under development , Because they know that cinematic games are expensive and dangerous if the game is not successful .
ِAnd why should Sony be the standard? Why isn’t everyone trying to be like Nintendo?
- Mario Kart 8 Deluxe ( 45.33 million ) copies sold
- Animal Crossing ( 38.64 million ) copies sold
- Super Smash Bros. Ultimate ( 28.17 million ) copies sold
- Breath of the Wild ( 26.55 million ) copies sold
- Pokémon Sword and Shield ( 24.27 million ) copies sold
- Super Mario Odyssey ( 23.50 million ) copies sold
The list continues for games that have crossed 15 + million copies , and all of them were not cinematic .
Cinematic games are an addition that Microsoft may need to reach the as many subscribers . But stop the false narrative that says cinematic games are the standard to succeed
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I wonder if People Can Fly will still be working with Square Enix. Maybe now Mocrosoft can work with them again.
I know they have 1 game with Take 2 as well.
On what IP though?
I really hope Indiana Jones isn’t first-person honestly. Such a vital component of those movies for me is seeing him do all of the fights and interactions and I think by transplanting it to the first person you would remove parts that made him so iconic in the first place.
I can vividly imagine a possible scene in the game when he’s running away from a hazard and from the behind-the-shoulder view you can see him turn around for a split second and you can see his eyes widen as he speeds up.
I mean yea comparisons would be made with Tomb Raider and Uncharted but it’s not like they both are heavily based on Indiana Jones himself
Obviously, it could be a first-person game but you’d need to convince me a ton personally that it wouldn’t totally alter the existing theming of the franchise.
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Personally I would consider NV or any city a mainline game, not just the numbered FOs
Doesn’t matter to me, could be a new IP if they want, or if they want to make Bulletstorm 2 or an Xbox IP I’m down with that.
Eh I feel like a mainline game would be one that radically changes the formula in some way while anything in between the numbered titles (graphically/mechanically, etc) are spinoffs. I mean NV certainly isn’t mainline for Bethesda by any means saying as it takes place on the opposite coast.
I don’t think anyone is saying that Sony is the standard are they?
They are saying Xbox should offer more of those cinematic narrative type games, because lots of people myself included enjoy them. People just jump to that conclusion because that’s what Sony are typically known for (from a first party perspective).
Xbox should also offer JRPG’s, Fighters, Platformers, Trivia, Party and Family games from their first party studios as Xbox currently don’t offer many (if any).
I would love some more family/party centric games I can enjoy with my kids, part of the reason my Switch is played more than my Xbox is because of this!
In the evening when I want to chill I’d love some cinematic linear type games like Last of Us, Tomb Raider, Plague Tale etc but from Xbox’s first party there aren’t many options (Hellblade). Options is what it comes down to and a subscription service should cater to all audiences including genres that I personally dislike but also ones I like.
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An optimist I see.
Dwarfed by the sales numbers of Minecraft, COD and more recently Elden Ring. Not to mention they don’t have even a fraction of the popularity games like Fortnite enjoy. People put way too much stock in the “cinematic formula”. It’s not as “popular” as you think and for good reason.
Maybe at some point the games industry will take a hint and realize that games will never reach their true potential while they try to copy Movies.
I see it all the time. Some people be it fans, media types and even developers themselves are obsessed with videogames being “Taken seriously” as a medium. They want sempai Hollywood to notice them. I mean if you look at critics of film when they review a particular film and say it reminds them of a “videogame” , nine times out of ten that is a put down, an insult. Yet a game being called “cinematic” is looked at as some sort of prestige honor.
The whole GOTY thing, the fact that a game like Forza Horizon can’t even be nominated for such, because it’s not a "cinematic ,narrative driven experience ". Shows the obsession of being like film rather that being judged on aspects that make it a great game. At least that’s the way it seems to me.
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This.
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Well said and agreed.
I don’t mind first person shooters, WRPG’s, racing games, etc. but at the same time, I also want third person single player story driven games as well. Hellblade 2 and Gears 6 are guarantees but I also believe that Indiana Jones will be third person as well as Perfect Dark so if that happens, we’ll have four games which is still a small percentage. The only thing missing is one of these games being a new IP.
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Perfect Dark? Lol.
I am going to assume that The Coalition’s new IP is also one of these games but that’s just an assumption.
Agree with The Coalition.
I believe that Perfect Dark will be third person stealth/gadget based with some shooting and set pieces. Crystal Dynamics has only done one first person game ever. Gallagher rebooted Tomb Raider which is third person. Can’t reboot a franchise and more importantly the character that it represents if you don’t see them.
Machine Games has done 0 third person games and you’re thinking Indiana Jones is third person though. You gonna have to give up on one of the two lol
I think the assumption is it will stay as a FPS, however in my personal opinion I think it may be an over the shoulder Mass Effect style perspective.
I feel they want to create Joanna Dark as a new big mascot for Xbox and it’s hard to do that from a first person perspective (I know people will throw Halo & Doom at me).
Machine Games will go third person because their first person Wolfenstein games all bombed. They did far worse than Guerrilla’s Killzone. If they want to get to the next level and more importantly, accurately reflect the character of Indiana Jones, it has to be third person. Other wise, why even bother?
Back to Perfect Dark, think about this -
The Initiative hires all these people and im guessing one of the issues was that they wanted to make the game first person along with possibly being episodic (this part both Jez/Rand speculated/heard for a long time) and Gallagher said, fuck no. Kicked them all out and instead of asking for a studio that has expertise in first person games (including studios that Microsoft actually owns) he asks for Crystal Dynamics who rebooted Tomb Raider and Lara Croft. Neither of which were relevant after the original PS One trilogy. They all came and went. The reboot did really well and more importantly resurrected the series and the character.
Gallagher along with Crystal Dynamics will do the same for Perfect Dark and Joanna.
Agree with Mass Effect style perspective. Halo has been around for 20 years and let’s be honest, it’s nowhere close to what it once was. Doom has a silent protagonist in which those who play Doom are doing so for the blood, gore and ultra fucking fast gameplay and shooting mechanics.
For Perfect Dark to be relevant, it must and will be third person. If not, why would Gallagher get Crystal Dynamics? To me, I believe that Microsoft has heard fans wanting more third person action adventure games. Indiana Jones and Perfect Dark will help solve this void along with Hellblade and Gears 6.
Not exactly. It was confirmed by people who are no longer there. It was never confirmed by Gallagher. What impact? Franchise has been dead for 20 years. Only reason it even exists was because Nintendo lost the Bond license.
Also, the third person stealth genre is basically non-existent. Go back 20 years. MGS is dead. Splinter Cell…jeez. Who knows how long it will take Ubisoft to reboot it. Could turn out like Skull & Bones or Beyond Good and Evil 2.
The only one that’s close is HITMAN and that’s not the same type of stealth. Hitman is slow as fuck, requires changing outfits and whatnot. Perfect Dark will be more along the lines of Splinter Cell Conviction but with more emphasis on stealth and gadgets but still be fast paced.
But we’ll see.
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That is a big guess on your part. Gallagher is the studio head, Drew Murray was playing the game at home like 2+ years ago. Do you think he allowed them to make a game that he didn’t agree with? People left because it was “my way or the highway” and unfortunately his way appears to be first person lol.
He went with a studio he was comfortable with, and not a single MS studio has the bandwidth to be able to fill this role. They are all struggling to grow on their own.
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Sticking with my guess. Murray was playing the game 2+ years ago? Yeah, the Nintendo 64 version or some kind of prototype like that leaked Starcraft game where it had no walls, textures and whatnot. Even excluding all the studios Microsoft owns, Gallagher could have asked for a studio that has expertise in first person games but he didn’t because he’s going to change it.
After all, it’s a reboot. Not a sequel. It should be changed.
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