Yeah, I think we’re going to need a moderator to come down from on high and clarify for us whether or not XGSP games belong in this thread for XGS. My personal vote is no, because they are not games developed by internal Xbox studios, but I can possibly be swayed.
@Knottian @Sikamikanico @Shpeshal_Nick whatchu think
Global Publishing technically counts as an Xbox Studio no?
XGSP IS APART OF XGS.
Yes!
It’s listed on the thing!
XGSP is listed on the 23 studios.
IT COUNTS.
Sure, but the game isn’t being developed by XGSP, it’s being funded.
Like, technically, Crackdown 3, Recore, and even the Ori games weren’t really first-party games, right? They were projects overseen by XGSP, but not developed internally?
Oooohhh, I’m about about to fight some mother****ers in this thread about this.
If say that XGSP doesn’t count, then you say that Xbox has 22 studios.
XGSP I think for “numbers purposes” is alloted into XGS but Is its own separate thing.
Heck it has its own separate twitter account lol.
IT’S ON THE DAMN WEBSITE.
Game.
Set.
Prog.
Belfry is global publishing. That’s under XGS.
All xbox published games belong in an xbox game studios topic, regardless of if they are developed by an owned studio or not. We dont exclude flight sim or battletoads or ori or gears tactics just because they were made by a third party studio, it makes no sense.
I stand with thee
Thank you, Brandon, for being a voice of reason. This forum is split into a few too many threads.
Let’s just decide if we’d like to split discussion of internal and external studios. It don’t matter whether it’s technically part of XGS does it?
Im fine with the multiple threads, i was just commenting on the xgs being excluded bit
It’s under XGSP, which is under XGS, keep the discussion here in the main thread.
I believe Global publishing talk belongs here
Lol, I’m fine with multiple threads. A forum needs several threads. But there’s a difference between managing separate threads for say, Sony and Xbox related conversation, and making separate threads for the discussion of xbox’s projects.
You’re forgetting the Casual Game Studio (like Phil always does…) but I really wouldn’t get too attached to that number anyway.
I guess this plays into my whole question - we don’t really know how much involvement XGSP has in these games. Gears Tactics was overseen by The Coalition, Battletoads by Rare, Flight Sim by an internal team at MS, etc.
I’m happy to be proven wrong, and honestly, I think we’re just arguing semantics here…but the root of the issue I have is that people were calling Project Belfry a first-party game, when by my own personal definition, it’s not, but rather it is a second-party game.
The industry doesnt really use the term Second party, if its published by a plaftorm holder its 1st party regardless of ownership of the studio. Noone argued that spiderman wasnt a 1st party sony game before they bought insomniac, noone argues that pokemon and fire emblem arent 1st party nintendo games even though nintendo doesnt own gamefreak and intelligent systems