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[Joe_Sinister1 (Joe_Sinister)]

@KageMaru

Do you have this tweet so we can see it in context? I highly doubt that’s what he meant.

This was what my post was reacting to.

Before he posted this.

[Staffy]

@Ruthwik_Rao

… the wind effects just kinda make the game feel more alive. But one reason or justification I’ve read regarding how these wind based effects and foliage swaying and all that are absent from a lot of shooters is because they tend to make it harder to read/discern enemies, especially at a long distance. Because at a certain level, you’re relying on movement on the screen to find where the enemy is and if a bunch of shit is swaying around in front of them it’s bound to affect your judgment. But tbh Crysis seemed to pull it off well, so does something like Farcry, and Halo can have that in Campaign at least, make the open world feel more alive and breathing but I do think it’s a deliberate choice whichever way they go and I’m ultimately OK with it. I know the MP can’t have any of that stuff tho.

We have wildly swaying trees in Battlefield games though.

@Joe_Sinister1

He means XGS projects are further out and basically nobody can know yet at what kind of visual level these games will be?

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Joe_Sinister1

yeah nah, nowhere am I seeing him say Xbox is incapable of making great looking games in any of these tweets, only that he doesn’t expect the kind of visual stunners at THIS E3. It’s just that he isn’t as impressed with racing games so FH5 won’t faze him in the same way HFW did which is his problem. But he hasn’t said anywhere nor implied any such thing that you’re insinuating.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

Im sure xbox can make those type of looking games its just the studios they have dont chase that style beyond Ninja Theory and Coalition(at least character models).

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@Staffy

We have wildly swaying trees in Battlefield games though.

lol been a while since I played any BF game, but that’s cool to know. That’s a proper competitive shooter so if it can do it maybe Halo can as well.

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@javycane

Im sure xbox can make those type of looking games its just the studios they have dont chase that style beyond Ninja Theory and Coalition(at least character models).

yep I can’t think of any XGS or Bethesda studio outside those two that aim for hyper realism in art and visual direction. Maybe Machinegames. iDsoftware? iDsoftware aims for maximum testosterone instead.

But the majority of em have their own art styles and design philosophies that are not aimed at maximizing fidelity. Psychonauts 2 character faces look like they’re from OG Xbox days lol but the art direction fits perfectly and the environments look phenomenal, in that way Double Fine do their own thing. Same with Compulsion games who shall do their own thing, Obsidian do their own thing, Arkane do their own thing, Bethesda do their own thing, 343 are gonna do their own thing, etc.

[No-1HoloLens-Fan]

@KageMaru

Do you have this tweet so we can see it in context? I highly doubt that’s what he meant.

In a recent interview a Microsoft executive talked about Gamepass and Exclusive for Gamepass strategy.

If it were for console strategy, they would have exclusive games launching right now. But they are in preparation mode for maga Gamepass surge rather then short term console market capturing.

Console is still above PC and mobile - but it all comes under Gamepass strategy.

Last year’s Xbox Showcase was all about Gamepass. And there is no denying that.

[Mohammed_Gamal (M)]

@Ruthwik_Rao

yep I can’t think of any XGS or Bethesda studio outside those two that aim for hyper realism in art and visual direction. Maybe Machinegames. iDsoftware? iDsoftware aims for maximum testosterone instead.

But the majority of em have their own art styles and design philosophies that are not aimed at maximizing fidelity. Psychonauts 2 character faces look like they’re from OG Xbox days lol but the art direction fits perfectly and the environments look phenomenal, in that way Double Fine do their own thing. Same with Compulsion games who shall do their own thing, Obsidian do their own thing, Arkane do their own thing, Bethesda do their own thing, 343 are gonna do their own thing, etc.

3-Inxile
from jobs(Mind-blowing Visuals, Stunning 3D Facial Animations) + unreal 5
4-The Initiative
5- i think i can say Playground Games but not on realism i think fable will have Mind-blowing Visuals But all of those games/ Studios should show And prove that not just expectations

[QuietGamer90 (Tawsif (Rafee))]

@Ruthwik_Rao

yep I can’t think of any XGS or Bethesda studio outside those two that aim for hyper realism in art and visual direction. Maybe Machinegames. iDsoftware? iDsoftware aims for maximum testosterone instead.

But the majority of em have their own art styles and design philosophies that are not aimed at maximizing fidelity. Psychonauts 2 character faces look like they’re from OG Xbox days lol but the art direction fits perfectly and the environments look phenomenal, in that way Double Fine do their own thing. Same with Compulsion games who shall do their own thing, Obsidian do their own thing, Arkane do their own thing, Bethesda do their own thing, 343 are gonna do their own thing, etc.

Regarding the character models - it has the same art style, but the level of detail is easy to notice for me since I played the original Psychonauts very recently. So, I kindly disagree.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@No-1HoloLens-Fan

If it were for console strategy, they would have exclusive games launching right now.

But they havent because the investment happened to late. I don’t see the link in what you are trying to say.

This downplaying of the xbox hardware when its still the other key component to the game pass atrategy is odd.

[Staffy]

I think Avowed may turn out to be a real looker as well!

[enski (Emil)]

Do we know if that Typhoon project is going to be multiplayer-only game or there will be some gameplay for single-player gamers?

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Staffy

I think Avowed may turn out to be a real looker as well!

If Outer Worlds last dlc is any indication yes it will.

[Staffy]

What might also come into play is, Sony might be going for 30fps with HFW, the footage sure is. I wonder how close to native 4K that is, because maybe dynamic 4K/60fps is possible? This is what I hope for the majority of XGS too. 60fps has proven to be a game changer, but we can’t forget about resolution and visual fidelity. Something like Avowed or Fable hopefully can tick all boxes. Not necessarily 4K, but dynamic 4K,60fps and have amazing visual fidelity too.

Maybe Fable, Avowed, inXile, Hellblade 2 is where machine learning will be used?

@javycane

If Outer Worlds last dlc is any indication yes it will.

It looks that good? Nice! I have yet to play both, damn I need to get started. There’s still SO much!

[Ruthwik_Rao]

@QuietGamer90

Regarding the character models - it has the same art style, but the level of detail is easy to notice for me since I played the original Psychonauts very recently. So, I kindly disagree.

Nothing to disagree, you misunderstood me haha. I was referring strictly to the character faces, they just look like mushy clay with just a flat hand painted texture, it’s what’s on the body and head that have significantly higher detail both in geometry and shaders.

[Staffy]

@Ruthwik_Rao

That is why I were referring strictly to the character faces, they just look like mushy clay with just a flat hand painted texture, it’s what’s on the body and head that have significantly higher detail both in geometry and shaders.

Yep, and the environments from what little I’ve seen of it in screenshots look awesome. Man I cannot wait for this game, and that’s all because of the first game. Before that I thought very little of Psychonauts 2.

[Visceron]

@CallMeCraig

This whole complaining isn’t very constructive. So lets do some thought experiment: what would you have done differently in May 2021 as a Xbox marketing executive?

I would have spread out the FPS Boost announcement of 70 games over 4 weeks. This worked pretty good with backwards compatible title, where we got new almost every week.

: i understand your point. lets see how Xbox handles this with the upcoming new games. I think people here will still complain if there are some quiet weeks and forget announcements outside E3 like for Perfect Dark or Indiana Jones.

Constructive criticism =/= complaining, doomposting, being overly negative, creating FUD, concern trolling or whatever else some people on this forum like to label it. There may be a fine line between the groups due to optics and perspective but I think it would help discussion to approach these debates in good faith instead of immediately dismissing everything as something negative because it’s something you don’t agree with.

Back on topic:

All of the Xbox studios sharing tech and working together, the skilled hardware and software engineers they have, plus what’s under the hood of the Series X, I don’t think we’ll have to worry about graphical showcases in a few years. Can’t wait to see UE5, VRR, and RT in a big budget Coalition title. You will probably be able to see dew on grass swaying in the wind in high fidelity at 60fps. It’s going to be astounding lol.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Visceron

Constructive criticism =/= complaining, doomposting, being overly negative, creating FUD, concern trolling or whatever else some people on this forum like to label it. There may be a fine line between the groups due to optics and perspective but I think it would help discussion to approach these debates in good faith instead of immediately dismissing everything as something negative because it’s something you don’t agree with.

[Mort]

@enski

Do we know if that Typhoon project is going to be multiplayer-only game or there will be some gameplay for single-player gamers?

If you want that we have a console for you, it’s called the PS5.

This is not serious.

[thiagosilva (thiagoツ)]

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