Xbox Game Pass is undergoing a big revamp

[Kals_Els]

I was already on the monthly GPU payment, but 30 bucks is too much for me to keep that up do I dropped it.

I will go back to using cdkeys/loaded to get try and get better deals, likely only subbing when games I want to play drop.

[BadNews]

@Titan

The online pay wall really, REALLY needs to go. Especially on Xbox where they’re insisting on treating every customer like they’re on all three (console, PC, and cloud) platforms at once with these GP subs.

What’s wild to me is pc gamepass doesn’t have online paywall and has their own version of ultimate that provides them with day ones for half the price . Why can’t consoles get something similar? Console gamers are subsidizing pc subs

https://x.com/wario64/status/1973396142319702125

[SheepDip]

@BadNews

I think I might be better off buying games individually rather than paying $30usd/month .

Yeah really. I’m going to have to take a serious look at whether it makes more sense to drop down to the $15 tier permanently and just buy some of those day 1 games outright.

[TimPhoeniX]

1. We should have custom sub options so that we can choose which upgrades we want.
2. I’m not playing Fortnite, so it’s very annoying that it probably contributes to the price.
3. I also do not appreciate MS bailing out Ubisoft with my GPU money.

[Solidevolution (Brandon B)]

I find it interesting that they are including a Fortnite , EA & Ubisoft subscription service but Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout 76 is still not part of Gamepass? What about WOW perks too all for $30.00?

[Widey85]

@BadNews

What’s wild to me is pc gamepass doesn’t have online paywall and has their own version of ultimate that provides them with day ones for half the price . Why can’t consoles get something similar? Console gamers are subsidizing pc subs

https://x.com/wario64/status/1973396142319702125

Hmm since upgrading my PC I’d be tempted to go for that instead and keep my Xbox for games I own once my stack runs out in Dec 26 as I don’t ever play online and I generally buy Ubi games I like pretty early on…

Will see where the prices land on Cdkeys / Loaded after a while then decide…

[Mort]

@Solidevolution

I find it interesting that they are including a Fortnite , EA & Ubisoft subscription service but Elder Scrolls Online and Fallout 76 is still not part of Gamepass? What about WOW perks too all for $30.00?

Yeah, at least add some relevant things. Or let us choose between some perks? Not everyone is into the same garbage.

What a shit change this is.

[Hix]

New games are $70 each for now, GPU still presents a high value proposition. That said, the lower tiers having unlimited cloud streaming probably shift the value for money choice for your average 2-3 new games per year player.

I’m pre-loaded on Ultimate until 2027 and paid almost nothing for the privilege, so I can’t really complain. Still funny seeing the “GP is too cheap and destroying the industry” brigade up in arms

[Anecronomicon]

@Hix

New games are $70 each for now, GPU still presents a high value proposition. That said, the lower tiers having unlimited cloud streaming probably shift the value for money choice for your average 2-3 new games per year player.

I’m pre-loaded on Ultimate until 2027 and paid almost nothing for the privilege, so I can’t really complain. Still funny seeing the “GP is too cheap and destroying the industry” brigade up in arms

The argument surrounding game time per month becomes more salient now. Keep in mind with that $30 it’s a rental for 30 days. $70 meanwhile is ownership (yes, even digitally) to play anytime on your own terms.

And in this industry games improve over time as well with patches so the whole day one shebang isn’t the value it’s made out to be. I still haven’t gotten into Stalker 2 properly yet for that reason (they’re still patching it).

[Titan]

@BadNews

What’s wild to me is pc gamepass doesn’t have online paywall and has their own version of ultimate that provides them with day ones for half the price . Why can’t consoles get something similar? Console gamers are subsidizing pc subs

https://x.com/wario64/status/1973396142319702125

Oh wow! PC Game Pass still exists?? I didn’t see it on the wire post and assumed it died. No PC game pass continues to be the undisputed best deal and that’s gotta be frustrating for console only gamers. Even if it was like $18 a console only tier that matched PC game pass would make so many gamers happy.

[Kals_Els]

@BadNews

I don’t want to get in trouble but with games going elsewhere . It’s making me hard to justify the current value proposition at this cost. I think I might be better off buying games individually rather than paying $30usd/month . I wish they could remove the online paywall because I wouldn’t mind paying for games separately

Unless you’re buying the games over a year later and a steep discount, that’s unfortunately not true.

I do agree that at 30 USD and whatever massive increase everywhere else. Game Pass Ultimate is not worth getting without finding it at a discounted price.

[Mort]

@Titan

Oh wow! PC Game Pass still exists?? I didn’t see it on the wire post and assumed it died. No PC game pass continues to be the undisputed best deal and that’s gotta be frustrating for console only gamers. Even if it was like $18 a console only tier that matched PC game pass would make so many gamers happy.

Yeah, of course the console users gets to eat shit once again.

[Hix]

@Anecronomicon

The argument surrounding game time per month becomes more salient now. Keep in mind with that $30 it’s a rental for 30 days. $70 meanwhile is ownership (yes, even digitally) to play anytime on your own terms.

And in this industry games improve over time as well with patches so the whole day one shebang isn’t the value it’s made out to be. I still haven’t gotten into Stalker 2 properly yet for that reason (they’re still patching it).

I mean you’re essentially making arguments why Premium presents a better value proposition - and it’s stayed the same price as before but added features like cloud gaming - which I was somewhat hinting at.

The added features of Ultimate, day one releases instead of within a year like Premium, 1440p streaming with higher bitrate Vs 1080p with standard, etc will likely appeal to some but for many it’s probably just more sensible to drop to Premium

[Mort]

@Kals_Els

Unless your buying the games over a year later and a steep discount, that’s unfortunately not true.

I do agree that at 30 USD and whatever massive increase everywhere else. Game Pass Ultimate is not worth getting without finding it at a discounted price.

That is how it is normally, there’s no need to pay $70 for a game unless you really have to play day one for some reason (online mp game etc.)

[Anecronomicon]

@Hix

I mean you’re essentially making arguments why Premium presents a better value proposition - and it’s stayed the same price as before but added features like cloud gaming - which I was somewhat hinting at.

The added features of Ultimate, day one releases instead of within a year like Premium, 1440p streaming with higher bitrate Vs 1080p with standard, etc will likely appeal to some but for many it’s probably just more sensible to drop to Premium

And ‘Premium’ is a decent deal still. I’m not saying it isn’t. In France it’s still 12.99 euros which is one euro cheaper than PlayStation’s equivalent tier (PS Plus Extra). For that you get a bunch of games and can play stuff like Diablo IV and Starfield. It’s a good deal.

But clearly MS wanted to sever the ‘day one’ umbilical and remove its first party games from an affordable sub service. Mission accomplished because $30 (27 euros in France) is way, way too much.

[Nyx]

Yeah, I’m out.

[Thomas_Selim (Xboxlanparty)]

So you have to pay a higher service in order to play multiplayer on console…

So sad to see the affordable argument of console going further away

Now you can’t play online without paying 9€ per month on Xbox

[BadNews]

@Mort

Yeah, at least add some relevant things. Or let us choose between some perks? Not everyone is into the same garbage.

What a shit change this is.

Seems so unfair because I haven’t played Fortnite in like 6 years . They won’t do it but make ubi, fortnite and other added services optional .its not fair for us to pay extra for things we won’t use

[Meister10000]

I wonder if there’s gonna be so much backlash on this that it shows many leaving the service. I ain’t gonna lie i kind of expect that or most to downgrade to premium.

Even then, if they somehow backtrack and decreased the prince i think the backlash would still be too strong.

I do wonder however once this economy nonsense stops being an issue if the prices would overall and generally speaking dimish over time.

[Anecronomicon]

@Meister10000

I wonder if there’s gonna be so much backlash on this that it shows many leaving the service. I ain’t gonna lie i kind of expect that or most to downgrade to premium.

Even then, if they somehow backtrack and decreased the prince i think the backlash would still be too strong.

I do wonder however once this economy nonsense stops being an issue if the prices would overall and generally speaking dimish over time.

The new Premium (old Standard) tier’s biggest problem is the lack of major third party day one releases, like Claire Obscure, Wuchang and games like that. The drip feed of titles into Standard Gamepass (as it was called) has always been much less frequent. It’s a problem because too much is written about Xbox’s first party titles being the meat and bones of Game Pass and not enough is said about the real added value and that’s those aforementioned third party games.