Don’t think Ubisoft has exclusive access to these IP, so not sure why it’s important
TBF Ghost of Tsushima and Horizon copied this Ubisoft format and both seem to have done relatively well both critically and with sales.
I think there is a large audience for these type of games, so I don’t see the harm in Xbox having their own…
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Of course Xbox can. I personally don’t mind big open world checklist games. Maybe I didn’t do a good job explaining before. But I think what people are tired of, and asking a fair question is that why do all of there franchises have to be that? AC, Far Cry, Ghost Recon, Immortals, Watch Dogs are all comically identical. The biggest shame is Ghost Recon, it used to be a hardcore tactical military shooter. Now with Wildlands it’s just third person Far Cry with big sprawling maps that have hundreds of small checklist outposts, which doesn’t mean bad or not successful. Just to some people tiresome.
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Ah sorry I misunderstood. Personally I still enjoy them, after work and entertaining the kids I sometimes just want something more simplistic to burn away some hours. Even then I often find I’m genuinely having a blast with Ubisoft titles.
I definitely approach them differently these days. I know going in that there’s no way I’m ever going to complete them, so I focus on what I’m interested in and then dip in and out.
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“People hate Ubisoft because they have been pumping out the same generic, soulless, committee made garbage for a decade”
Dude said that LOL, anyone that believe that? have not play much game at all and is not qualify to talk about games.
WTF does that even mean? the game will sell. It a license IP we all know that. MS has it own license IP of Indiana Jones? what is the probem with licensing popular IP?
You keep tossing IP they don’t own or have exclusive rights to in your list of reasons to buy Ubisoft. If the IP alone sells and its not exclusive, they don’t need Ubisoft to sell 20 million copies, right?
Ubisoft does not own the Avatar and Star Wars IP they are licensing them which means additional costs, additional restrictions and the possibility that they will not have access to these IPs in the future. They might be profitable ventures but so far as an acquisition because of their temporary nature they don’t hold much value and shouldn’t be relied upon in the long term.
The additional restrictions though is particularly troublesome for Microsoft as they have game pass to contend with and paying another company annually for access to their own first party content (the likely outcome of working with any licensed IPs) isn’t exactly ideal. I don’t think we’ll see a lot of licensed content from Xbox as a result.
Something is always moving at Xbox they already stated that they wanted more studios after they enter a verbal agreement with ABK, you don’t hire people from Netflix to only put stuff out quarterly it’s actually monthly.
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We are long past the old days of just console exclusive, now its all about day 1 gamepass.
OK then, might as well cancel Indiana Jones than since MS will lose the IP rights in the future. I’m i doing this gloom and doom right?
Sony better cancel Wolverine too since they will also lose the IP gaming rights in the future.
Seriously some of yall need to stop with the doom and gloom.
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It’s not doom and gloom, it’s pointing out the practicality of the situation. There are other studios who work on licensed IP that come up from time to time in this thread as an acquisition target, such as WB Games studios, and it usually comes with a discussion of potentially losing that license and if the studio is worth acquiring without it. That’s just the reality of these things. Ubisoft has plenty of great IP you can point towards for an acquisition discussion, but temporary licenses they are paying to use don’t really factor in a whole lot. For one thing you might even find there are clauses restricting how these licenses transfer in an acquisition.
In general though, there are advantages and disadvantages to licensed IP - but there are likely additional disadvantages because of game pass that Microsoft would have to factor in. I mean look at how long it has taken Microsoft to get Goldeneye back on Xbox, a deal that likely took a ton of work negotiating with Nintendo and presumably the James Bond license holders. Look at We Happy Few - a game from a first party studio that will be gone from game pass soon because the rights are tied up with another publisher.
Does that mean they won’t work on licensed games? Of course not, I didn’t say otherwise especially since they clearly have at least one in the works. But I don’t think we’ll see Microsoft prioritising them over their own IPs.
And does any of that mean Sony wouldn’t work on licensed games? No, because unsurprisingly they aren’t affected by the Microsoft specific licensing problems I mentioned. I’m not really sure why you thought to bring that up.
WB Games is different. WB Games parent company actually own their Movie License Gaming IP. MS is not buying the whole of WB & they won’t buy just WB Games? i don’t think. Ubisoft and for the sake of this argument we can add EA into this. EA is also a PUB that has many license movie IP’s. Movie license IP do tend to have a expiration date, does not mean it can’t be renew, even if it does expire in 5-10 years the game get taken off Gamepass? i say so what, if you buy the game you can still play it, and if it been on the subscription service for that long and you never play it? that is on you.
Sony is also moving towards a more Subscription service, although way slower then MS… but they are also moving there, if what you say can happen to MS? Sony will also face the same issues with license IP. Sooner or later Sony will also starts offereing day 1 games on their service it only a matter of time.
I will say this, all this doom and gloom fearmongering over losing license IP on a subscription service like gamepass is nonsense. If you want to play the game then you have plenty of time years and years to play the game before it is remove. The fear of license movie IP being remove from Gamepass is a 1st world problem and is not really gone to affect much if anyone at all.
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If you can’t discuss these things without dismissing any negative as “doom and gloom” or “fearmongering” then this isn’t really worth discussing further.
It is what it is. Them concerns are not really anything to go by. The games will be on Gamepass you and everyone else concern with License IP? will have all the time to play it, if you want to play it. You can also buy it if are scare of it being remove from Gamepass.
OK fine, you have a nice day.
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COD is not going exclusive, it’s not changing the power landscapes between the platforms. Still, Sony is immensely annoyed that:
a) this purchase assures that Microsoft will stay committed to gaming and won’t go away. Microsoft had some attempts into various industries where they didn’t stay for long. Just recently they scrapped Surface Duo. Microsoft reportedly nearly quit the console market back in 2014, and in general Xbox was underfunded under the VP Terry Myerson. So maybe Sony hopes that if this acquisition doesn’t go through and PS5 sells vastly better than Xbox Series (still a possibility), Microsoft’s interest in the console market will wane eventually
b) between games like COD, Minecraft, Diablo and Overwatch, Microsoft will be one of the biggest 3rd party partners (as well as being a direct competitor). MS will have the weight to shape Sony’s policies and will be privvy to Sony’s plans for the future
If you’re gonna shit talk someone at least actually quote them
and yes lots of people hate Ubisoft for those reasons…"Not being qualified to talk about games 
To the ignore list you go
Except it does because COD will be associated with Xbox now. That’s a huge deal.
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You show you’re lack of gaming by saying that, i quote it to make a point. I didn’t talk shit about you, that’s your own quote, If you truly believe that then there is no hope. “soulless” it a video game not a person LOL, when you start talking like you have personal hate towards a game company? it’s weird man.
BTW if you want to break it down, i’ll gladly have this discussion on why your hate towards Ubisoft games is wrong. I’m a big fan of Ubisoft games, have been playing them since the mid 2000’s.
Is it? We know COD in UK last year sold in 55:45 ratio (Playstation vs Xbox versions) even though the Playstation installed base is greater than that in that country.
Xbox most played charts:
- COD #1 in US, Portugal,
- #2 in UK, Germany, Italy, France, Ukraine, Mexico, Spain
- #3 in Poland, Brazil
I’d check more countries but I don’t know any more country codes. Still, I think it’s safe to assume the general audience knows you can play COD on Xbox and the marketing deal doesn’t make much of a difference. I mean it must make sense for Sony and MS to sign those marketing deals, but looking at the leaked Resident Evil Village contract, they’re not terribly expensive.
IMO Sony don’t want this deal to go through as they don’t want MS to be the biggest 3rd party publisher on Playstation; in that sense it changes the power dynamic between the companies, but it wouldn’t affect consoles sales short term by any means.
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If it did not make a difference, it would not exist 
And Sony would not fight that aggressively against the deal. Marketing will make a different, Game Pass will make a difference. COD will change the power dynamic. It won’t happen overnight though. But it will happen.
Sony could careless who is the biggest publisher on Playstation - they would happy if Microsoft were the first place publisher on Playstation if it means getting all MSFT games.
The current situation with COD is preferrable for Sony, yes. It’s also safe to assume Sony don’t want COD to appear on Nintendo consoles. But I don’t think it’s the primary driver Sony vehemently oppose the acquisition deal.
Well, they’re not gettin all Microsoft games, but MS could still be the biggest publisher with the few franchises Sony would be getting. We know that in the past, biggest 3rd party publishers were sometimes in a position to strong-arm platform holders into changing platform policies. Microsoft being both the biggest 3rd publisher and a direct competitor in the console hardware space would leave Sony in a precarious position.