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@javycane

Nothing too big for Microsoft.

If by big you mean a whole entity like Square Enix which has interests in music, manga, etc yes but I reckon Sega gaming is separate now along with Capcom (having its best run ever so wont sell).

Its more general logistics with MS and whether it makes sense. Also any JPN publisher would be an absolute pain to persuade them to join you.

[anon98342452]

@Daniel

3.5m sales in 3 days is kinda big, FF14 is having a big comeback it looks like and it would be a perfect game for Game Pass. Can I pls have Deus Ex.

Maybe just getting FF14 on the Xbox platform in any way would be perfect . On the other points, I’d rather they avoid SE if it’s an “either-or” scenario with another Japanese pub. I don’t think their IP is nearly as strong as it once was, being nostalgic to older gamers such as myself but maybe not as appealing to the younger audience. I suppose the same could be said about any of the “big three” Japanese pubs being discussed here. Maybe Bandai Namco would be the best buy….anime is huge across all age ranges apparently.

[Stefrah]

@Fabtacular

Color me somewhat skeptical that MS will make an acquisition of a Japanese publisher. I feel like the optics on something like that would be bad.

I know there’s been rumblings about MS making a “big investment” in a Japanese publisher, and my guess is that any major deal in Japan would be a co-publishing / back catalogue deal. Something like MS would co-fund development on the publisher’s games on terms very friendly to the publisher in exchange for perpetual Game Pass / Xbox rights. And perhaps some kind of agreement where MS would have rights to the publisher’s IP in exchange for some kind of royalty / residual non-Xbox/Game Pass rights.

I think that is why everyone is so focussed on Sega despite there never being a single ‘insider rumour’ about it – it’s the deal where the ‘optics’ would only be an issue for those who hate on everything MS does.

Sega had a strong association with Xbox in the early days, with a slew of games that started development for DC becoming OG Xbox exclusives. Certain franchises, like Panzer Dragoon, have an even stronger connection, with the ‘spiritual sequel’ Crimson Dragon from the series creator, being an Xbox One exclusive.

They are also, in their history, technically an American company run by Japanese people and have always catered to both markets. There is nothing niche or designed to appeal only to Japanese audiences or Western Japanophiles. From day one they made games to appeal to both markets and still do.

It makes a lot of sense. So much sense that it has continued to be one of the biggest rumours without any credible ‘insider’ ever saying a word about a Sega deal.

I doubt it’s going to happen, but I would be delighted if it did.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

Acquisition or not, we all agree must do something to crack SE antagonizing behaviour, tell me anything you want, but Xbox came back to OG Xbox levels concerning Final Fantasy games, aka zero and it’s not good, expecially while you’are trying to crack asian markets seriously for the first time in a decade.

[anon98342452]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

Acquisition or not, we all agree must do something to crack SE antagonizing behaviour, tell me anything you want, but Xbox came back to OG Xbox levels concerning Final Fantasy games, aka zero and it’s not good, expecially while you’are trying to crack asian markets seriously for the first time in a decade.

Hard to do much about it other than buy the games, play them on GamePass and hope Sony and Nintendo stop throwing money at games to be exclusive.

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@anon98342452

Hard to do much about it other than buy the games, play them on GamePass and hope Sony and Nintendo stop throwing money at games to be exclusive.

We should also stop to blame Xbox community for “not buying games”, expecially when they arrive years (or decades) later at stupid price points, we are not the problem, this is the only certain thing.

[anon98342452]

@Roronoa_Zoro90

We should also stop to blame Xbox community for “not buying games”, expecially when they arrive years (or decades) later at stupid price points, we are not the problem, this is the only certain thing.

I don’t think Xbox gamers are the problem. I’m simply saying that buying the games, playing on GamePass, etc is the best way to speak to a corporation. Money and engagement are the only languages they seem to understand.

[Butters (Sven)]

Square Enix’s decision making is baffling to me. After they release only two mainline games of a franchise with more than 15+ games, they deem the cash from Sony the better option.

Instead of growing the fanbase on Xbox and with that growing the franchise as a whole.

Sega and Capcom seem to understand that, but fuck SE for that BS.

Of course FF Paradise is gonna sell like shit on Xbox, that’s a game only fans of a franchise would buy.

[Boosted_Gear]

@ThereAreFourNaan

MS will acquire the month of September, but Sony has its eyes on October.

Why October for Sony ?

[Callangoso]

@Boosted_Gear

Why October for Sony ?

He’s just making a joke

[Boosted_Gear]

@Callangoso

He’s just making a joke

Thanks !

[Roronoa_Zoro90]

@Butters

Square Enix’s decision making is baffling to me. After they release only two mainline games of a franchise with more than 15+ games, they deem the cash from Sony the better option.

Instead of growing the fanbase on Xbox and with that growing the franchise as a whole.

Sega and Capcom seem to understand that, but fuck SE for that BS.

Of course FF Paradise is gonna sell like shit on Xbox, that’s a game only fans of a franchise would buy.

Yeah, the only new FF we’ll get for the next 2-3 years is a bad looking spin-off, this situation it’s becoming a bad joke, lmao.

[Callangoso]

@Butters

Square Enix’s decision making is baffling to me. After they release only two mainline games of a franchise with more than 15+ games, they deem the cash from Sony the better option.

It also doesn’t help that the only Final Fantasy games released to Xbox(XV and XIII) are arguably one of the worst in the franchise.

[CallMeCraig]

@Callangoso

It also doesn’t help that the only Final Fantasy games released to Xbox(XV and XIII) are arguably one of the worst of the franchise.

lol, what

[Callangoso]

@CallMeCraig

lol, what

FF XIII is pretty much agreed upon as the worst mainline Final Fantasy, and XV is considered below average for the franchise. These are the only Final Fantasy games that released day one on Xbox.

[CallMeCraig]

@Callangoso

FF XIII is pretty much agreed upon as the worst mainline Final Fantasy, and XV is considered below average for the franchise. These are the only Final Fantasy games that released day one on Xbox.

thats not true

[Visceron]

@Butters

Square Enix’s decision making is baffling to me. After they release only two mainline games of a franchise with more than 15+ games, they deem the cash from Sony the better option.

Instead of growing the fanbase on Xbox and with that growing the franchise as a whole.

Sega and Capcom seem to understand that, but fuck SE for that BS.

Of course FF Paradise is gonna sell like shit on Xbox, that’s a game only fans of a franchise would buy.

It’s honestly infuriating.

[Callangoso]

@CallMeCraig

thats not true

I mean, everyone has a different opinion but FFXIII has the worst critic reception(83 on PS3, 65 on PC. FF XIII sequels have even worse Metacritic scores with Lighting Returns having a 66 on PS3 Metacritic) of the franchise.

FFXV has a 81 on PS4 Metacritc and a 83 on Xbox. Not necessarily a bad score but it is below average for the franchise.

[Ser_Bloodraven (Hand of the King)]

SEGA obviously checks the most boxes as a 3rd publishing arm, followed by Paradox Interactive (in my opinion).

These are both public companies (SEGA’s gaming division being part of one). This hasn’t been Xbox’s strategy (yet).

We know acquisitions are coming.

[javycane (Javier Ruiz)]

@Butters

Square Enix’s decision making is baffling to me. After they release only two mainline games of a franchise with more than 15+ games, they deem the cash from Sony the better option.

Guaranteed money lowers risk

The game is the game